This message was posted by Greenwing on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?/topic/2/1598/2.html#000015 They are from Melco they are needed to use the Sash frame that is the FULL size sewng field the amaya can sew. 20.7" x 16.8" they mount on the outside holes but they bend out further so wider hoops can be attached. They are spendy $179 for a set. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================