This message was posted by signman on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/4/526.html#000003 Check out your local florist, they might have it on hand for large wreaths and be willing to sell you some...a 'hip' sash is 72" long...so get 8' to make sure you have enough for 'V' cuts on the ends if they want them. Mark your center with a piece of tape-pencil mark on that-and then do your layout using that mark as your 'top of the shoulder' point. Another critical factor...hang it on your Hubby with a paper clip...and mark with tape which way the letters read! (been there, done that...oops) =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================