You have a real advantage. You can make your own to suit the situation. I agree that some of the Dakota designs are better than others. But you can edit the underlayment to what you think is best for the design. I do it and if I can anybody can. Jack Fuller -----Original Message----- From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 13:10 To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [amayausers] Re: Minor questions.... refering to #1-the underlayment issue....when we zoom in, all we see is ONE line of underlayment, no sign of repeat or multiple lines. Checking 'stitch by stitch' (tabbing down through the list to highlight each one in the design) shows me only one underlayment....yet when it sews out, it runs all around the area, then back again, to the start point, then repeats, before it starts the satin stitch. Without underlayment the line looks terrible-have to have something under it! Any techs with ideas? Or should I just delete the 'program' underlayment and create my own? This comes up with some of the crappola Dakota designs I use, but also in logos I"ve done totally in Designshop. Roland