This message was posted by Rod or Sharon on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/1/655.html#000001 Yo Mud, Is the thread being cut when you hear this noise? Is the thread being slingshot back up through the eyelets when this happens? It is doubtful that the grabber is contacting the needles. The grabber is probably contacting an uncut top thread that is a result of a miss-trim and the grabber is trying to stuff a taut thread back into the grabber trap which gets tight enough to cause the grabber to go into a stall protection mode. It will then growl and chatter. Time to call Melco to document possible trimmer issues and/or let them talk you through the fixes..... Rod Springer Amaya Tech & Trainer =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================