One thing you might suggest to your customer is that he create his own graphic, print it out with an ink jet printer and iron it on his own shirt; this doesn't help the cap situation much but he's doing it for personal use for the shirts and thus doesn't put anyone else at risk. Dorothy Compton Bee Embroidered _www.BeeEmbroidered.com_ (http://www.beeembroidered.com/) (916) 635-7467 Rancho Cordova, CA In a message dated 7/18/2005 10:15:18 AM Pacific Daylight Time, imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx writes: Thanks Jeff, I think the customer and I have come to an understanding and I have tactfully requested he seek the services of another embroiderer. I am not ready to lose all that I have worked so hard for! Wow...that ate at me all weekend!! LuAnn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Banks" <banksje@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 1:00 PM Subject: [amayausers] Re: Lord of the rings??? > LuAnn, > > IF you are selling the items to him, and someone wants to get nasty, (and > even if you are not selling them to him) you open yourself up for trouble. > Even if you are in the right, the cost of a lawyer to even send out a > letter to another lawyer in your defense is not worth the hassle or cost > for 1 hat and a couple of shirts. Another thought is that now you have > told everyone on this list your intentions. It has happened before on > other lists where someone is paying for the rights to do something, like > be able to reproduce Shriner stuff etc. and someone posts they need the > design or posts their intentions just as you are doing. Shortly after the > person gets a nasty Cease And Desist letter from a lawyer. You decide. > > Jeff Banks > Melco Embroidery Systems > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "image embriodery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 10:20 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Lord of the rings??? > > > Re: [amayausers] Lord of the rings???Okay, here's the deal. This guy is a > "Lord of the Rings" freak. He wears a ring on a chain around his neck. His > day planner and other office items are the same theme. > The shirts are for his own personal use. He wants three shirts and a > baseball cap. I WILL NOT be mass producing this item!! > He has already agreed to me using a different font, not in two colors and > possibly changing the layout. > You bring up an intersting point with the gymnast! > Thanks for the response. > Would you do it??? Kind of put you on the spot there!? > LuAnn > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roland R. Irish III > To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2005 11:35 AM > Subject: [amayausers] Re: Lord of the rings??? > > > Depends on what you are going to do with it-if it is for a 'one shot > deal'-someones' shirt-then you are not 'representing' it as 'your work' > and not 'selling copies of copyrighted artwork' as your own. But if > someone wants you to run off a whole batch and then sell them-that's a no > no. > I've seen that phrase used for someone that is a 'gymnast'-and something > else... > copyright infringement gets you into court when you : > ?run off a batch of items that duplicate 'copyrights' (batman teeshirts, > for example) > ?'charge' for artwork that is copyrighted (Corel art disks-you cannot > 'charge' someone else to use the corel artwork, or pass it off as your > own-but you CAN use it to 'create' custom artwork) > ?copy other items for sale and charge for them (doing Harley Davidson > ANYTHING is a no no-they have legal snoops that look for that stuff as a > permanent job!) Even a 'Harley repair shop' I know here was forced to > remove a Harley BANNER from his window-because although he REPAIRED harley > motorcycles, HE wasn't a 'registered' Harley shop! > ?get caught.... > so you have to find out what it is going to be used for. 'Lord of the > RIngs' is a book, a movie, etc. but the 'saying' can be used for other > things, and the FONT macedon is an 'established' font-they can't stop > anyone from using it.... > use your judgement! > > > From: "image embriodery" <imageembroidery@xxxxxxxxxx> > Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:03:48 -0400 > To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: [amayausers] Lord of the rings??? > > > > > Can I use the phrase "Lord of the rings"....Macedon font...single > color?? Is this still considered copyright infringement? > Please advise! > Thanks... > > LuAnn @ Image Embroidery