This message was posted by levelbest on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/654.html#000003 Are you talking about down the sleeve, or say on the cuff of a short sleeve shirt. The first requires a special hoop and was what I was thinking of. Sorry! On the other - 3.5 might be a little large. It's all in the taste of the client. Generally speaking, if I can't fit it in the smaller of the two hoops we have (the size just below the 5.9 - can't recall it) - then it's probably going to look gaudy. But maybe that's what the client is looking for. Personally, I'd try to stay between 2.5 and 3. 2.5 if it's more square - 3 if it's more long. Honestly though, it's one of those - see what looks good things! =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================