This message was posted by Oregonian1a on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/927.html#000011 I have noticed that a slight amount of resistance when pulling the cap frame off the ring gauge is a pretty good indicator that the band that grabs the seam is tight enough. When I can feel this, and when I use a good amount of force to "rub out" the slack on the front of the when it is still on the ring gauge then I don't have any problems. Of course I trace the design to check if the cap is being pushed off the frame because the design is too high. =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================