[amayausers] Re: Hat Backs
- From: "For Heaven's Sake Embroidery" <for_heavens_sake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 12:05:17 -0400
The only time I’ve ever had a problem with adhesive backing is with those
stupid vinyl bags, and that problem is the pocket being too small. Maybe
you aren’t using the right sticky backing or you can try the hydrostik,
which I prefer, but it doesn’t offer as easy of multiple hooping as do the
sticky paper.
I’ve never lost a hat (boy do I hate to risk my machines wrath by saying
THAT) by having the paper release. Of course, I am talking about hat backs,
I use the WACF for the fronts. I don’t even use backing on the structured
hats fronts anymore.
JMO,
Kelly
-----Original Message-----
From: amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:amayausers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Roland R. Irish III
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 9:58 AM
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hat Backs
I have pretty much given up on fast frames-use them only with 'paper clamps'
from Staples for tote bag pockets. The adhesive backing just won't hold
anything in place-and with the curve of the hat material I can't see even
clamps holding that tight down! How do you do it?
I hooped up a canvas hat this week in the 4" hoop and it looks like it might
work-keeps it flat and stable. Fastframe just won't hold it down-the hat
pops right off.
At the training last fall all John has are the WACF which came with our
machines. For the hats he demos on-they work great-but those are full
structured high profile. Once we came home and customers wanted low profile
unstructured-everything went sour. I sent off an order for 100 to have Dick
do up in Vermont-he did it on his 12 head Barrudan even though he has 10
Amayas-said they just don't do the job on that type of hat!
Roland
From: "Rod or Sharon" <springer37@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:42:02 -0600
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hat Backs
Roland,
CCF/WACF is the conventional cap frame and WACF is the newer 270 degree cap
frame. Melco has improved the WACF from the ones that I recieved with our
machines and I really haven't had the oportunity to give them a good
try....probably because I don't have any of them.......I do prefer, same as
Aaron, the older CCF/WACF for most caps and do most of my side work an/or
cap backs on fast frames....
Rod
Embroidery Cottage
Rod & Sharon Springer
Melco Trained Amaya Tech/Trainer
Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing
Boise, ID 83713
208-938-3038
----- Original Message -----
From: Roland R. Irish III <mailto:signman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 8:13 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hat Backs
You mean the conventional 'hoop' frames-not the WACF on the Melco's?
From: "Linen Barn" <linen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 07:00:37 -0700
To: <amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [amayausers] Re: Hat Backs
When I do my hat backs I don't worry so much about the arc being exactly the
same as the hats. I just set most hats up at 3" on the arc and let em go.
Never had any complaints and I do hat backs on 80% of my hats.
As far as the cap frames we use WACF on our 2 head tajima and they work
great. We use the conventional frames on our Melco's cause they are faster
to hoop and seem to sew better on taller designs.
Aaron Sargent
The Linen Barn
linen@xxxxxxxxxxx
Medford, Oregon
----- Original Message -----
From: Peachey Threads <mailto:karen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 6:41 AM
Subject: [amayausers] Hat Backs
I have been reading some of the talk about hat backs. Maybe I am naive to
what the problems are but I am really curious about what several of you are
encountering. Here is the scoop.
When I purchased my Amayas I did not like the WACF hat frames............but
determined myself to get use to them. I embroider all my hats with them AND
the hat backs. The only issues that seem to come up is when doing the hat
back I watch to see that the bill of the hat is not hitting on the AMAYA
table and throw registration off.
Also, in order to get the right curve for the hat back (for the traditional
style w/ opening in the back).......I digitize on screen (usually
lettering).....give it my best "eyeball judgement of a curve"..........print
out a paper copy.......cut it out........check the curve on the
hat........make adjustments.......print out a paper copy again. Most of the
time I get it on the second try.
I also determined myself not to use any thing that has the word "sticky
back" in it. TEE HEE! I actually have come to like the WACP hat frames.
Does this sound crazy?
Regards,
Karen Peachey
Peachey Threads
Embroidery & Digitizing
(503) 634-2912
It is the Peach
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