Cheryl, I have disliked The Copperplate font for this reason. This type of font is difficult to size up or down and always promises troulble, especially on something like T shirt material. Short of heavy editing of the font itself, try this. Go to a 4 density, turn off short stitches, eliminate any underlay you have added--like the centerwalk, change the stitch length to 16 or 17, add as much pull compensation as you can but not so much as to distort the letters and in OS go into the "Settings" tab and select "Settings by color", ativate it and on the respective color/needle that is sewing the lettering set your machine speed to 900, the column width to 53 and here you can also set your material thickness too , try a 4 or 5.....too high and looping will start to occur--need to experiment with this one. I often go into each individual letter, convert to wireframe editing nd adjust/eliminate a ton of end points, straighten out lines, adjust overlaps..etc.....just a peice of cake....eh? Good luck Rod Springer Embroidery Cottage Rod & Sharon Springer Melco Amaya Tech & Trainer Design Shop Pro+ Digitizing Boise, ID 83713 208-938-3038 ----- Original Message ----- From: Cheryl Rotter To: amayausers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:09 AM Subject: [amayausers] Font Question Hi all, I am hoping someone might be reading who can help me out. I am using a Cooperplate font at .25 inches tall on a cotton knit medium weight t shirt. Double backing. I cannot get the cooperplate to look right. Code sheets indicate that is the smallest possible size. Density is 3.5 with a center walk. It will sew at 3.5 but maybe that is too dense??? The lettering looks uneven, almost puckered. I always thought if it will sew out, use the lowest density possible? Should I try a lower density?. My test sew outs were done on 2 layers of cutaway backing sheets and it looked great, but add the royal blue T shirt material with white thread. EEE GADS, a nightmare. Any ideas? I also added double solvy on top last night before giving up, it improved a little but still that bunched puckering look. Thanks for any help Cheryl Rotter Team Sports Ink 5111 Grumann Dr. Ste #1B Carson City, NV 89706 775-884-3550