This message was posted by Juli in Kona on AmayaUsers.com. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY VIA EMAIL. Instead, respond to the thread on the WEBSITE by clicking here: http://www.amayausers.com/boards/ultimatebb.php?/topic/2/1094.html#000001 I think you would be a lot happier to get a 30 x 15 cm hoop from Durkee Hoops. It can be used for sleeves and it will also orient the other way. I use this hoop so often that I finally ordered cut stabilizer for it. The fast frames are great for some applications, but are rather a mess to use. It a reg hoop will do the job, that is definitely what you want to use. Juli in Kona =========================================================== The AmayaUsers Mailing List Website: http://www.amayausers.com Discussion Board: http://www.amayausers.com/boards Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://www.amayausers.com/list ===========================================================