[accmemberdiscussion] Re: Shelby County Commissioners' letter
- From: "Ivy Rice" <ilcrice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 13:38:27 -0500
I know, Donna, and that is the trouble I am having with writing my letter.
There are so many points that could be made. I’m trying to decide whether it
would be beneficial or not to include, as an introduction, a bit of information
on HSUS and/or PETA as an explanation of why our concern level is so high. If
you think this would be a good idea, or if you have suggestions along this
line, please send them to me. I have plenty of info to write about the
specifics of this Shelby county case, but feel a bit incompetent to explain
HSUS to those who may know nothing about it.
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[mailto:accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Djsdosido@xxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:18 PM
To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: Shelby County Commissioners' letter
Thanks, Ivy. The PUPS letter took a pretty good chunk of time to put together
just because there are SO MANY points you could make. Choosing which ones and
how to put it together coherently was a little more involved..........LOL.
Here is another copy of the letter that was sent to the Planning Commission.
Damon, I think if you just take out the Planning Commissioners' names and
insert the County Commissioners' names, it will be just fine to send. Of
course, change the date and you may have to change that case number....... I
don't know. Frankly, I'm not sure what else I could say about the whole
subject without sounding redundant or confusing.
I'm surprised to hear that this is coming before the Commission so quickly.
That doesn't sound too good for our side. They want to get something done
fast. Also, I hate that the meeting is at 8:30 on a Monday morning. I have a
new job that I'm not sure when the start date is yet. I had assumed that the
meeting would be at night again......most usually are. Do you know if any of
the other BKC Shelby County residents can be there?
Donna & the Dosido Gang
Remlap, Alabama
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In a message dated 10/1/2010 11:07:08 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
ilcrice@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
Donna, I like your PUPS letter. Damon or Donna, could one of you send me a
copy of Donna’s letter to the planning commission.
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[mailto:accmemberdiscussion-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Damon Folmar
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:02 AM
To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: PUPS letter to Rep. Robert Aderholt
We can...I can probably copy & paste it & address it to the commission. I had
in mind the same letter, just addressed to different people. I did forward it
to a few of the commissioners but not the entire commission. I can just do
that if you want.
Damon
-----Original Message-----
From: Djsdosido@xxxxxxx
To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Fri, Oct 1, 2010 7:57 am
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: PUPS letter to Rep. Robert Aderholt
I'll be glad to, Damon, but I thought you had already sent the one I wrote to
the Planning Commissioners on to the County Commissioners. If you didn't, then
I suppose we could just use that one. Don't you think?
Please let us know how your meeting with Corley Ellis goes.
Donna & the Dosido Gang
Remlap, Alabama
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In a message dated 10/1/2010 3:36:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
jdfolmar@xxxxxxx writes:
It was a great letter.
Donna--would you mind doing an ACC letter to the Shelby County county
commission prior to their meeting on Monday morning at 8:30 on October 11?
I plan to do one as well as have a face to face meeting with Corley Ellis prior
to the 11th. The more letters and input we can have ahead of time the better.
If anyone wants to go to the meeting it's in Columbiana 10/11 at 8:30 and they
will vote on this issue and then meet with the Planning Commission thereafter.
Anyone who goes will only have 3 minutes to speak, so I think while it's
important that we have people there it's more important to adequately express
our views ahead of time.
Thanks!
Damon
-----Original Message-----
From: Baba Monk <babamonk@xxxxxxx>
To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 11:07 pm
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] Re: PUPS letter to Rep. Robert Aderholt
Great letter Donna. Thanks! Baba
On Sep 30, 2010, at 4:08 PM, temujinjk@xxxxxxx wrote:
Well done, Donna! Judith
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From: Djsdosido@xxxxxxx
To: accmemberdiscussion@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thu, Sep 30, 2010 3:57 pm
Subject: [accmemberdiscussion] PUPS letter to Rep. Robert Aderholt
This is the letter that I just sent via email to Robert Aderholt regarding his
sponsorship of the PUPS legislation. I am sharing it with you so if you want
to use it as a guideline to send one of your own or to get friends and family
living in the 4th District to send one. It is VERY important that Congressman
Aderholt understand that there are MANY of his constituents opposed to his
position on PUPS. Please take the time to write yourself and to encourage
others to do the same. Baba has already sent talking points to use earlier
today. There are many to choose from......you don't have to include all of
them. Please feel free to crosspost to those who can help. I will be sending
it to some terrier folks I know in North Alabama.
September 30, 2010
Representative Robert B. Aderholt
1433 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
RE: The Puppy Uniform Protection and Safety Act (PUPS)
HR 5434 and S 3424
Dear Representative Aderholt:
As an active voter in your Congressional district, I am writing to you
regarding my concern for your support of the abovementioned bill. Please
remove your sponsorship from this bill. Although I voted for you in the past
election, I will be unable to support you further if you continue your
sponsorship. Furthermore, I will urge friends, relatives and professional
contacts to refrain from supporting you as well.
I have been active in, with and for dogs for over fifteen years. I have shown
and trained my own dogs and helped others with theirs. I know many very
responsible, very ethical hobby breeders of several different breeds of dogs.
All of the dog people I know will be negatively affected by this piece of
legislation should it pass. There are almost 75 million dogs owned in the
United States. Many of those have come from the very segment of the dog
breeding population this bill would injure, as it would affect all breeders who
sell directly to the public, including show, hobby and working dog breeders.
There are so many spurious, ill-advised and ambiguous elements to the bill that
I hardly know where to begin to point them out. So, I will give only these few
as examples:
1. PUPS creates a new category of breeder: the “High Volume Retail
Breeder” who would be required to be licensed by the USDA under the Animal
Welfare Act/AWA. This breeder is defined as anyone who, “in commerce, for
compensation or profit –
(i)has an ownership interest in or custody of ONE (1) or more breeding female
dogs; and (ii) sells or offers for sale, via ANY MEANS OF CONVEYANCE (including
the Internet, telephone, or newspaper), more than 50 of the offspring of such
breeding female dogs for use as pets in any 1-year period. In addition,
“breeding female dog” is defined as “an intact female dog aged 4 months or
older”.
Obviously, a 4 month-old female dog isn’t physiologically mature enough to be
bred. Nor can one female dog produce 50 puppies in one year. But the PUPS’
definition of “HVR breeder” designates 4 month-old puppies as being intact and
breedable. Intact, yes; breedable, no.
Furthermore, the “50 offspring” aren’t defined by age, or as being from litters
owned by the breeder, or even as being personally owned by the breeder. This
very vague term includes everything from puppies, young adults, spayed dogs,
older retired dogs, previously placed dogs returned to the breeder and then
rehomed, etc. And if the breeder should have telephone discussions with
possible prospective dog buyers regarding any planned litters, this would be
counted towards the sale of “50 offspring” required for licensing whether or
not there was actual consummation of any sale.
2. If PUPS should pass, it would increase the need for many more Animal
Plant and Health Inspection Service/APHIS inspectors, yet there is no increase
of inspectors reflected in the bill’s text. Additionally, there is nothing in
this bill that changes the status of already known substandard kennel
violators. New sources of funding would be needed to administer the currently
unfunded bill’s mandate. Without funding, expanded enforcement and inspections
couldn’t be done and those facilities requiring extra inspections would slip
under the radar. Considering the sorry state of the nation’s economy and the
huge budget deficits under the Obama administration, funding would be
improbable, if not impossible, to get. And what good is any piece of
legislation if it can’t be carried out?
Congressman, again, I urge you to reconsider your sponsorship of this bill.
The unintended consequences would be punitive and far-reaching in the world of
purebred dogs bred by hobbyists.
Sincerely,
Donna P. Noland, Member
The Birmingham Kennel Club (www.birminghamkc.org <http://www.birminghamkc.org/>
)
The Airedale Club of America (www.airedale.org <http://www.airedale.org/> )
The Scottish Terrier Club of America (www.stca.org <http://www.stca.org/> )
The Atlanta Terrier Club (www.atlantaterrierclub.org
<http://www.atlantaterrierclub.org/> )
The Alabama Canine Coalition, Inc. (www.alabamacaninecoalition.org
<http://www.alabamacaninecoalition.org/> )
The American Dog Owners Association (www.adoa.org <http://www.adoa.org/> )
Donna & the Dosido Gang
Remlap, Alabama
Visit me at www.doublenickellife.blogspot.com
<http://www.doublenickellife.blogspot.com/> and help support the Alabama
Canine Coalition by shopping/searching through http://www.goodsearch.com
<http://www.goodsearch.com/> and http://www.igive.com <http://www.igive.com/>
Every year of dog love is worth seven years of the human stuff. (Michael Rosen)
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