Hi Ray can I say that I have also bought a PC for the living room just like Steve Nutt's configuration. it is a micro ATX system specially designed for quiet use. it is about 30x30x45 cms and as a bare bones system with motherboard case and processor cost £200. obviously you still need to add hard drive DVD recorder of choice and nebula freeview system for it to work. I have added a cordless keyboard and mouse and it connects to the TV via a component video output directly from the motherboard. however, the most amazing thing is how quiet it is. I have it about 4 feet from my ear and the fan noise is almost absent. it only has a 180 watt power supply with one free PCI slot so it probably wouldn't do as your main system, but I also have a PC in my study on which I have all my music ripped as MP3's, so my wife and I can hear whatever we like through the hi-fi in the living room using a wi-fi connection. one word of caution though, nebula recordings with audio description can't be burned to DVD yet, but the company are working on it. regards Steve Green ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:39 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking digital media centre Hi Ray, We have a PC in the living room, and it is our complete Media Centre. We play DVDS, CDS, MP3, and most other kinds of media on it. It saves having a separate DVD player, CD player, Video Recorder, etc. Because of Nebula, we can record accessibly, as you can with this stand-alone Media Centre, but we do get pictures. This means I can burn DVDs for my sister and parents, if I want to. Finally, it is networked wirelessly to our PCs upstairs, so I have about 300gb of storage available to it, which means I can store my complete CD collection in one place. Now that you can buy quiet PCs, or even a laptop, which I use in the living room, a PC doesn't have to stick out like a sore thumb, where furniture is concerned. I personally think a PC is the best Media Centre there is, even if you don't have the Media Centre version of Windows. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Low-call: 08452 606 277 International: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: mailto:Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Hazan Sent: 15 May 2006 19:03 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking digital media centre Graham, But who wants or has a PC in the living room? Mine is up here in a converted bedroom and I would prefer to sit with my wide downstairs! Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 6:18 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking digital media centre > yes, that price is absolutely unjustifiable given the amount of > information > available on the internet. I can't see who would possibly want to pay > this > apart maybe from someone who has recently lost their site who is quite > well > off. You could get a very well specified desktop computer for this price. > > It may be appropriate for organisations such as schools local societies > for > the blind or libraries so people can look up television related > information. > A lot for one person to justify though. > > Cheers > > Graham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Vince Thacker" <vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 5:40 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking digital media centre > > > Not quite everyone has kept quiet. On this page at the Audio Description > Newsletter the price is said to be £850. I'll have to sell my second yacht > yet again! > > this is the link > http://www.rnib.org.uk/xpedio/groups/public/documents/publicwebsite/public_A Dnewsletter2005.hcsp > > Vince. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra Henshall" <oceania@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:22 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: talking digital media centre > > >> Hi >> For some reason, everyone seems to be keeping very quiet about the price >> of this hing. It's almost the first link on the Portset website but here >> again, no mention of price. 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