James, Maybe they do not know that the site could be made easier. Yes, I could use it, as could you, but if it helps others in the future, maybe it is worth pointing out the problem. They may do nothing, but it only takes a few minutes to ask? I know it is not a major issue, but I will point it out and see if anything happens. David -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of James Scholes Sent: 05 January 2009 20:09 To: Léonie Watson Subject: [access-uk] Re: badly designed websites Cobolt aren't the only site to deploy methods like this, and quite honestly it would slow me down to contact them to complain about it. I'd rather just get on with my online shopping experience, but that's just me. -----Original Message----- From: Léonie Watson <tink@xxxxxxxxxx> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Monday, January 05, 2009 07:21:56 PM Subject: [access-uk] Re: badly designed websites You're right. It's not good practice to use link text like this. As you say, it assumes that everyone is using a mouse, when evidently many people are not. That goes for mobile users, as well as screen reader and keyboard only users of course. The repetitive text at the start of each link not only makes it impossible to use link selection techniques with a screen reader, it also makes it difficult to visually distinguish one link from another. This can be particularly problematic for people with reading difficulties. It's also inefficient. It takes longer to read each link, whether you're scanning it visually or listening to it with a screen reader. Browsing should be quick, easy and as simple as possible. Although only a minor inconvenience, all that extra text really doesn't support the user as they try to complete their goals. Léonie. -- http://www.tink.co.uk/ -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of David Russell Sent: 05 January 2009 18:56 To: Access-Uk@Freelists. Org Subject: [access-uk] badly designed websites Hi all, We have all become accustomed to poor design with regard to the inaccessibility of websites, but you would think by now that those specifically for visually impaired people would have some idea of good and bad practice. I have had cause to use Cobolt systems website of late and, although it is not at all difficult to find your way around, it has one very basic and, to me, infuriating problem. all the links say "click to online shop" or "click to news page". firstly, most of us do not mouse click at all, but, much more importantly, if all links say click to, which is totally unnecessary, this means you cannot look for the online shop by searching for links beginning with the letter o. I intend to write to Cobolt and see what they have to say, but I do wonder if this annoys others or should we just make the best of the situation? To my mind, this could be put right fairly easily, and I can't believe that no one has yet pointed it out to Cobolt. any comments? 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