I've no objection to a brief message, preferably with a link where full details may be found. George Bell (Moderator) -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Gucukoglu Sent: 02 February 2009 10:17 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Ultracane! I am a convert. Hi Steve. Exactly what I was thinking, so clear it with the moderator first LOL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 10:09 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Ultracane! I am a convert. > Hi Ibrahim, > > I will do that, provided it is not considered a commercial <Smile>. > > All the best > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Ibrahim Gucukoglu > Sent: Monday 2 February 2009 07:57 > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Ultracane! I am a convert. > > Hi Steve. > > Don't RNIB do a sonar device? I'm sure I remember seeing a pen sonar > device > > from them in their catalogue but never tried it. I'd be interested in > your > opinion of this new product, the caretech unit so once you've a review and > a > > price, perhaps you could post this information to the list providing that > is > > the moderators don't mind *smile*. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 5:36 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Ultracane! I am a convert. > > >> Hi James, >> >> I agree with you, I got rid of my Ultracane simply because it was too >> heavy >> for every day use. I travel around a lot, and I just found it cumbersome >> compared to a regular cane. But the K Sonar is pretty good, and you can >> clip it to your cane. Only down side to that, is you have to wear an >> earpiece with it. I don't like that either, as it impairs hearing. That >> one is at http://www.ddaware.co.uk. >> >> Finally, I am waiting to receive the new mobility aid from Caretec which >> is >> called Ray. It is a handheld device, but it vibrates or beeps, your >> choice, >> and I like that. No headphones required, but you can use them, if you >> want >> the audible warnings. http://www.caretec.at. >> >> We will be able to sell this, and if anyone is interested, write to me >> off >> list, and I'll let you know when I have worked out the price, and more >> importantly, evaluated it. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> All the best >> >> Steve >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >> Of >> James Scholes >> Sent: Sunday 1 February 2009 20:41 >> To: Peter Beasley >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: The Ultracane! I am a convert. >> >> Hi Peter, >> >> Just my thoughts here: Interesting. I definately know what you mean, it >> is >> easier to move along with, but I just can't get over the fact that its >> just >> not portable enough for a mobility aid for me. Plus, I have learnt a >> variety >> of Cain techniques, so I don't feel the need for a vibrating warning >> system. >> I should try one again though, really give one a go. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Sent by Peter Beasley on Sunday, February 01, 2009 at 07:59 PM >> >> I bought one of these secondhand over 3 years ago. And, although I used >> it >> a few times, last Monday someone who was looking up in the clouds - or >> behind him, got himself intangled with my cane and broke off one of the >> joints. I was ok because I wasn't far from where I was going and someone >> helped me there, and I managed to get a lift back home when we had >> finished. >> >> The only other usable cane I had was the Ultracane so I had to use it and >> I >> am very glad that I did. I find that I can walk much faster because it >> slides over the groud much easier because it is top heavy plus the added >> bonus of the 2 vibrating buttons under the thumb to warn you of >> approaching >> obstacles. 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