I can only confirm from helping someone this last weekend with this that the situation is confusing, although you can get lucky and somebody will actually know something in a Vodafone shop but it is rare indeed. Any of you willl find that a Nokia 6600 is impossible to find in the high street, even a Nokia 6630 may be displayed but actually available to buy. The best aproach in my opion if on the high street is to launch in with "speaking phone" or "Talks" software for blind mobile users. You will find that staff have relatively poor knowledge of which phones such software can be put on, few I experienced even knew which Nokia phones have Symbian 60/80 and it's difference to over other Nokia based phones. However for many people the sort of contract of £30 upwards with call costs is not a realistic proposition, and the best bet if you want pay as you go is don't bother asking in store but scower the web for a cheap deal and get a pay as you go SIM, although a big lump at once to pay, for some this may be an answer. Regards. Tristram Llewellyn Sight and Sound Technology Technical Support www.sightandsound.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Page" <gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:40 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKS in the UK Hi Mel. Steve may have responded to this already but, if not, the situation is in reality quite confusing. A few weeks ago Mike Duxbury presented quite a rosy picture of Vodaphone saying that a new phone could be bought with talks quite easily for about £200. I can only say that in reality people working in Vodaphone shops were not made aware of this so people have had difficulty getting the information they need about what is available. For future reference people have had some luck calling 08700 733222 when discussing the phone with talks, refer to the Speaking Phone. I know that people on Orange who used to get the wildFire answering and phonebook service have been able to get TALKS though again this has been a bit hit and miss. not sure where new people stand. T-Mobile have a dedicated service for disabled people but they offer little real help from what I can gather and Frankly I do not know why they bother. For the amount of help they can give they would be better just giving existing call centre users appropriate training as experience suggests that if you want any major decision taking on issues such as TALKS you will be put through to a manager. A couple of existing T-Mobile customers I know of have been given TALKS compatible phones at a cheaper rate and have been given the price of a talks upgrade back as credit to their accounts but I do not know what happens if you are a new customer as T-Mobile seem to have no official policy on this one that is clear. Has anyone had experience of O2 or even Three in this respect? As accessible phones are now available, a code of practice that all phone providers conform to would be the ideal solution I suppose. Cheers Graham Graham Page Mobile: 07753 607980 Fax: 0870 706 2773 Email: gpage@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx MSN: gabriel_mcbird@xxxxxxxxxxx Skype: gabriel_mcbird ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mel Spooner" <mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:11 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKS in the UK Hi Steve, I have a couple of friends who are getting Talks free on the 6680 but they are limited to certain contracts. Not knowing much about Vodafone, I don't know which these are. Mel Mel Spooner edIT Help Desk Nottinghamshire County Council Tel 0115 854 6116 Email mel.spooner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Nutt Sent: 31 August 2005 06:34 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: TALKS in the UK Hi Neil, As far as I know, Voda are only giving Talks free on the 6600, which is a very old phone to say the least. We don't give Talks free on any phone, however, when you buy from any accessibility dealer, as opposed to a mobile phone company, you get Talks Premium. Neither Voda, nor any other tel co are allowed to sell or give away Talks Premium, so you are getting added value if those applications sound good to you. If you don't need them however, Talks on a 6600 is OK, if you also don't want 3G and all that good stuff. All the best -- Computer Room Services: the long cane for blind computer users. Telephone Voice: +44(0)1438 742286, Fax/BBS: +44(0)1438 759589 mobile: +44(0)7956 334938, Email: Steve@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Web site: http://www.comproom.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Neil Jarvis Sent: 22 August 2005 10:30 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] TALKS in the UK Hello folks, I wonder if anyone can update me a little on the current situation re TALKS and mobile phones in the UK. I've been away for a year now so I'm a little out of touch. I take it that computer Room Services are still dealers for TALKS: I certainly hope so. I've also been hearing that Vodafone themselves are also supplying TALKS with suitable handsets. I'm even hearing that if people sign up to a contract with VF they will get TALKS for nothing. Firstly, is this actually the case and if it is, what is people's experience of the this in practice: does it actualy happen; do VF staff know about the offer and indeed about TALKS. And if so, what sort of prices have people paid for a new phone loaded with TALKS. Is the Customer Services up to much from VF - its always been first-rate for instance from CRS, so how does Vodafone compare? Lastly, is there a UK dealer for the Mobile Speak software and does anyone have any experience with them? I'm asking this because we're looking at our options for how best to meet the talking mobile needs of our members here in New Zealand, and I just want to be clear what the current state of affairs is in Britain so I can do a realistic comparison when negotiating. 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