Hi Peter >but wasn't that criteria dropped ages ago in favour of general access? As far as I was aware, access-uk is for technical rated access. General access issues would be better going to: vi-genaccess-subscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx So while the thread about railcards interesting it surly shouldn't be on this list. Regards, Derek e-mail: derek.hornby_uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq