I quite agree, this topic would really be more at home on the vi-genaccess, or possibly blind-discrimination lists. Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham Lewis" <Graham.Lewis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2004 8:39 AM Subject: [access-uk] Should blind an VI recieve free bus and traintravel: Was. Re: Re: How do I change which > Qell I don't get free travel. I get a third reduction if I have a pass - = > the same as students. The thing I worry about most is not the cost but = > whether we will have a 'public' transport system at all. > > Anyway this is all probably way off topic. > > Graham Lewis > Centre for Academic Practice > University of Warwick > University House > Kirby Corner Road > Coventry CV4 8UW > UK > =20 > Tel.: (+44) (0) 24 765 72737 > Mobile: 07733450022 > Fax.: (+44) (0) 24 765 727326 > > http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/cap/about/staff/lewis/ > http://innovations.warwick.ac.uk/innovations/ > http://cap.warwick.ac.uk/tdf > > >>> peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/06/04 05:45am >>> > Interesting question, Alexander > . Should blind and visually impaired persons recieve free bus and train > travel? Of course. Why not if its free. I'll take it. Most of us can = > hardly > afford it otherwise. But then should unemployed persons recieve free bus = > and > train travel, > They, in most cases, make less than us, require the ability to travel to > job interviews etc, so why not them, too. One can argue that they could > drive, but that is hardly unlikely if they are unemployed. There's the > argument that this benefitt was fought for us by the vetrans of bygone = > wars. > But that was then and this is now. So should we recieve free bus and train > travel, especially in this day of privatization when shareholders are > themselves asking the same question. Why are blind and visually impaired > persons allowed to travel free. What about single mothers on welfare and > dedicated unemployed persons seeking employment oppertunities.. Really. = > Why > should we get it for free? I've always believed that what the government > gives us, the government can take away. Is it only a matter of time before > we lose our free transit pass? > From my point of view this isnt' fair to those living in the UK. As a > Canadian living in the province of Ontario I have always paid full fare. I > get free transit on our local bus which runs north and south once per = > hour. > But any intercity or from town to town is not free. There's no free rail > travel, no D L A, no free grass cutting, no free houseing, you'd have to > pay at least $175 per month, after an eight year wait for a one bedroom > flat, if you're lucky. no free glasses, dental etc. But the government = > does > give me a free computer every five years, which I'm grateful for. A = > disabled > person in Ontario gets about $960 per month, which, at todays excellent > rate, is about423 pounds per month. Its often less. Last month I had to = > pay > $650 for a root canal. I have an artificial eye. The cost of a new one is > about $3,500. i'd have to pay about $900 of that, benifitt or not > Should we get free bus and rail travel. Yes. But so should others. > As I've said, what the government gives us, the government can take away. > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to=20 > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, send a message to:- > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq