[access-uk] Re: Should blind an VI recieve free bus and traintravel: Was. Re: Re: How do I change which

I quite agree, this topic would really be more at home on the vi-genaccess,
or possibly blind-discrimination lists.

Simon



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Subject: [access-uk] Should blind an VI recieve free bus and traintravel:
Was. Re: Re: How do I change which


> Qell I don't get free travel.  I get a third reduction if I have a pass -
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> the same as students.  The thing I worry about most is not the cost but =
> whether we will have a 'public' transport system at all.
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> Anyway this is all probably way off topic.
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> >>> peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 10/06/04 05:45am >>>
> Interesting question, Alexander
> . Should blind and visually impaired persons recieve free bus and train
> travel? Of course. Why not if its free. I'll take it. Most of us can =
> hardly
> afford it otherwise. But then should unemployed persons recieve free bus =
> and
> train travel,
>  They, in most cases, make less than us, require the ability to travel to
> job interviews etc, so why not them, too. One can argue that they could
> drive, but that is hardly unlikely if they are unemployed. There's the
> argument that this benefitt was fought for us by the vetrans of bygone =
> wars.
> But that was then and this is now. So should we recieve free bus and train
> travel, especially in this day of privatization when shareholders are
> themselves asking the same question. Why are blind and visually impaired
> persons allowed to travel free. What about single mothers on welfare and
> dedicated unemployed persons seeking employment oppertunities..  Really. =
> Why
> should we get it for free? I've always believed that what the government
> gives us, the government can take away. Is it only a matter of time before
> we lose our free transit pass?
>     From my point of view this isnt' fair to those living in the UK. As a
> Canadian living in the province of Ontario I have always paid full fare. I
> get free transit on our local bus which runs north and south once per =
> hour.
> But any intercity or from town to town is not free. There's no free rail
> travel, no  D L A, no free grass cutting, no free houseing, you'd have to
> pay at least $175 per month, after an eight year wait for a one bedroom
> flat, if you're lucky. no free glasses, dental etc. But the government =
> does
> give me a free computer every five years, which I'm grateful for. A =
> disabled
> person in Ontario gets about $960 per month, which, at todays excellent
> rate, is about423 pounds per month. Its often less. Last month I had to =
> pay
> $650 for a root canal. I have an artificial eye. The cost of a new one is
> about $3,500. i'd have to pay about $900 of that, benifitt or not
> Should we get free bus and rail travel. Yes. But so should others.
> As I've said, what the government gives us, the government can take away.
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