[access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it
- From: "Barry" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 06:30:36 +0100
Is there a way of stopping the *Your machine is not protected...* bubble that
comes up after start up when the windows firewall is disabled?
Barry H
----- Original Message -----
From: Andrew Hodgson
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:59 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it
Hi,
Yes, but it may cause crashes etc. It depends on how well the firewall
is written. I would say that the best practise would be to have a
hardware firewall on a router and an application firewall. I really
don't see what benefits two software sirewalls will give you on the same
system, and as I have said, I have seen crashes when both are enabled,
admitedly not with the MS firewall, but the principal is the same.
Andrew.
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> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Barry
> Sent: 29 August 2004 18:35
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it
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> Can we run a third party firewall and the SP2 firewall at the=20
> same time?
> Barry H
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> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Colin @ New Vision=20
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:26 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it
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> Hi John
> That's where most of the flaw reports are now coming from,=20
> as companies test
> it with their own bespoke software. We can safely assume=20
> all the Microsoft
> software and the major software vendors have put it through=20
> extensive tests.
> I totally agree with you when you say it has to be better=20
> for the home PC
> user as they tend to use the more standard application software.
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> The point of more concern being users tending to rely on=20
> SP2 being the fix
> to their security problems and ignoring or taking off their existing
> firewalls and security measures.
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> I think it has already been mentioned on this list if they=20
> download SP2 can
> they remove their existing firewall.
> I think ZoneAlarm was the one mentioned.
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> I would certainly recommend not removing any backup=20
> security measures until
> we can be assured that SP2 is functioning as it should.
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> Regards
> Colin
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> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: "John Farley" <john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:08 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it
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> > It is not necessarily the flaw reports that are stopping=20
> companies from
> > installing SP2. It is because they have not yet tested=20
> and proved it with
> > all of their applications, many of which will be bespoke=20
> and not, by their
> > very nature, tested by Microsoft.
> >
> >
> > For the home user, not using any particularly special=20
> software, there is
> no
> > real reason not to install SP2. In fact the extra=20
> security in it probably
> > means that the home user should install it as soon as practical.
> >
> > As usual there are too many scare stories going around=20
> about the odd
> > potential issue where the real fact is that it will=20
> improve the situation
> of
> > security.
> >
> > Please be aware that I am not saying that SP2 will cure=20
> all ills, just
> that
> > it will improve the security of the home PC.
> > There will, of course, be issues found in it; there will=20
> be subsequent
> > fixes. Install them!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards, John
> >
> > Contact on : (Home)
> > john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > or : (work)
> > john.farley@xxxxxxxx
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of
> > Colin @ New Vision
> > Sent: 29 August 2004 15:49
> > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] SP2 and should you install it
> >
> > The flaw reports are causing companies to hesitate even=20
> more before
> > installing Microsoft's latest step to secure Windows.=20
> Many companies have
> > said they will hold off on the update until it has been=20
> thoroughly vetted.
> > SP2 is designed to add better security to the operating=20
> system's handling
> of
> > network data, program memory, browsing activity and=20
> e-mail messages by
> > changing the system's code and configuration. For=20
> example, a revamped
> > firewall is intended to keep attackers out and attempts to prevent
> malicious
> > applications from connecting to the Internet by requiring=20
> that the user
> give
> > specific permission to each application.
> >
> > The major software update, which took almost a year to=20
> create, came to
> life
> > after the MSBlast worm hit the Internet on Aug. 11.=20
> Almost 26 days before,
> > Microsoft had issued a patch for the security hole the=20
> worm exploited, but
> > many people did not install the fix even though there was=20
> widespread
> > expectation that a virus would be created to take=20
> advantage of the flaw.
> >
> > Microsoft have never claimed that SP2 would close all the=20
> security holes.
> >
> > Microsoft firewall protects only against inbound threats,=20
> not outbound
> > threats, such as keystroke-logging Trojans that report=20
> your passwords and
> > credit card information to others. Also, the lack of=20
> outbound protection
> > means your infected PC could still participate in distributed
> > denial-of-service attacks. In short keep your=20
> third-party firewall
> enabled
> > alongside Microsoft's. Two firewalls are better than one.
> >
> >
> > Since we're talking about Microsoft software, it's=20
> entirely possible that
> > virus writers will soon write code that turns off the=20
> Windows Security
> > Centre or at least leads it to falsify its status reports=20
> (saying, for
> > instance, that a security measure is enabled when it's=20
> really not). So
> don't
> > just rely on the Security Centre's status messages.=20
> Periodically check
> your
> > antivirus and firewall applications independently of the centre.
> >
> > Bottom line: Microsoft made significant progress toward=20
> remedying its past
> > problems, but it still falls far short of putting=20
> Microsoft on the leading
> > edge in PC security. Install Windows XP SP2 when you get=20
> the opportunity
> but
> > don't expect this one update to solve all your Internet=20
> security issues.
> To
> > be safe, keep and maintain third-party antivirus and=20
> firewall programs.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Colin
> >
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