[access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you install it

Hi Barry,

In Control Panel, open the Security Centre.  You
will find that with Firewall turned off there
appears a "Recommendations" button.  Click that.
You for the check box where it says, "I have a
firewall solution." Etc..  Check that box, and you
won't be nagged any more.

George.

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry
Sent: 30 August 2004 06:31
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you
install it

Is there a way of stopping the *Your machine is
not protected...* bubble that comes up after start
up when the windows firewall is disabled?
Barry H

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Andrew Hodgson
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 8:59 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you
install it


  Hi,

  Yes, but it may cause crashes etc.  It depends
on how well the firewall
  is written.  I would say that the best practise
would be to have a
  hardware firewall on a router and an application
firewall.  I really
  don't see what benefits two software sirewalls
will give you on the same
  system, and as I have said, I have seen crashes
when both are enabled,
  admitedly not with the MS firewall, but the
principal is the same.

  Andrew.

  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
  > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Barry
  > Sent: 29 August 2004 18:35
  > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  > Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you
install it
  >=3D20
  > Can we run a third party firewall and the SP2
firewall at the=3D20
  > same time?
  > Barry H
  >=3D20
  >   ----- Original Message -----=3D20
  >   From: Colin @ New Vision=3D20
  >   To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
  >   Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 5:26 PM
  >   Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you
install it
  >=3D20
  >=3D20
  >   Hi John
  >   That's where most of the flaw reports are
now coming from,=3D20
  > as companies test
  >   it with their own bespoke software. We can
safely assume=3D20
  > all the Microsoft
  >   software and the major software vendors have
put it through=3D20
  > extensive tests.
  >   I totally agree with you when you say it has
to be better=3D20
  > for the home PC
  >   user as they tend to use the more standard
application software.
  >=3D20
  >   The point of more concern being users
tending to rely on=3D20
  > SP2 being the fix
  >   to their security problems and ignoring or
taking off their existing
  >   firewalls and security measures.
  >=3D20
  >   I think it has already been mentioned on
this list if they=3D20
  > download SP2 can
  >   they remove their existing firewall.
  >   I think ZoneAlarm was the one mentioned.
  >=3D20
  >   I would certainly recommend not removing any
backup=3D20
  > security measures until
  >   we can be assured that SP2 is functioning as
it should.
  >=3D20
  >   Regards
  >   Colin
  >=3D20
  >   ----- Original Message -----=3D20
  >   From: "John Farley"
<john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  >   Sent: Sunday, August 29, 2004 4:08 PM
  >   Subject: [access-uk] Re: SP2 and should you
install it
  >=3D20
  >=3D20
  >   > It is not necessarily the flaw reports
that are stopping=3D20
  > companies from
  >   > installing SP2. It is because they have
not yet tested=3D20
  > and proved it with
  >   > all of their applications, many of which
will be bespoke=3D20
  > and not, by their
  >   > very nature, tested by Microsoft.
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > For the home user, not using any
particularly special=3D20
  > software, there is
  >   no
  >   > real reason not to install SP2. In fact
the extra=3D20
  > security in it probably
  >   > means that the home user should install it
as soon as practical.
  >   >
  >   > As usual there are too many scare stories
going around=3D20
  > about the odd
  >   > potential issue where the real fact is
that it will=3D20
  > improve the situation
  >   of
  >   > security.
  >   >
  >   > Please be aware that I am not saying that
SP2 will cure=3D20
  > all ills, just
  >   that
  >   > it will improve the security of the home
PC.
  >   > There will, of course, be issues found in
it; there will=3D20
  > be subsequent
  >   > fixes. Install them!
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Regards, John
  >   >
  >   > Contact on : (Home)
  >   > john_farley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   >         or : (work)
  >   > john.farley@xxxxxxxx
  >   >
  >   > -----Original Message-----
  >   > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=3D20
  > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
  >   Of
  >   > Colin @ New Vision
  >   > Sent: 29 August 2004 15:49
  >   > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  >   > Subject: [access-uk] SP2 and should you
install it
  >   >
  >   > The flaw reports are causing companies to
hesitate even=3D20
  > more before
  >   > installing Microsoft's latest step to
secure Windows.=3D20
  > Many companies have
  >   > said they will hold off on the update
until it has been=3D20
  > thoroughly vetted.
  >   > SP2 is designed to add better security to
the operating=3D20
  > system's handling
  >   of
  >   > network data, program memory, browsing
activity and=3D20
  > e-mail messages by
  >   > changing the system's code and
configuration. For=3D20
  > example, a revamped
  >   > firewall is intended to keep attackers out
and attempts to prevent
  >   malicious
  >   > applications from connecting to the
Internet by requiring=3D20
  > that the user
  >   give
  >   > specific permission to each application.
  >   >
  >   > The major software update, which took
almost a year to=3D20
  > create, came to
  >   life
  >   > after the MSBlast worm hit the Internet on
Aug. 11.=3D20
  > Almost 26 days before,
  >   > Microsoft had issued a patch for the
security hole the=3D20
  > worm exploited, but
  >   > many people did not install the fix even
though there was=3D20
  > widespread
  >   > expectation that a virus would be created
to take=3D20
  > advantage of the flaw.
  >   >
  >   > Microsoft have never claimed that SP2
would close all the=3D20
  > security holes.
  >   >
  >   > Microsoft firewall protects only against
inbound threats,=3D20
  > not outbound
  >   > threats, such as keystroke-logging Trojans
that report=3D20
  > your passwords and
  >   > credit card information to others. Also,
the lack of=3D20
  > outbound protection
  >   > means your infected PC could still
participate in distributed
  >   > denial-of-service attacks. In short  keep
your=3D20
  > third-party firewall
  >   enabled
  >   > alongside Microsoft's. Two firewalls are
better than one.
  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Since we're talking about Microsoft
software, it's=3D20
  > entirely possible that
  >   > virus writers will soon write code that
turns off the=3D20
  > Windows Security
  >   > Centre or at least leads it to falsify its
status reports=3D20
  > (saying, for
  >   > instance, that a security measure is
enabled when it's=3D20
  > really not). So
  >   don't
  >   > just rely on the Security Centre's status
messages.=3D20
  > Periodically check
  >   your
  >   > antivirus and firewall applications
independently of the centre.
  >   >
  >   > Bottom line: Microsoft made significant
progress toward=3D20
  > remedying its past
  >   > problems, but it still falls far short of
putting=3D20
  > Microsoft on the leading
  >   > edge in PC security. Install Windows XP
SP2 when you get=3D20
  > the opportunity
  >   but
  >   > don't expect this one update to solve all
your Internet=3D20
  > security issues.
  >   To
  >   > be safe, keep and maintain third-party
antivirus and=3D20
  > firewall programs.
  >   >
  >   > Regards
  >   >
  >   > Colin
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