Jackie, I'm sure I've heard that, indeed, Pure aren't going to update the Sonus. Not only that, but they were disappointed at the low take-up of the Sonus. The same happened I believe with the Netgem Box. I think It isn't just the limitations of the audio tagging idea in these products; it's as much to do with few of us wanting to pay any sort of premium for an accessible product even though that premium is nothing like the stratospheric realms of the Portset. The idea that RNIB and others had of a market willing and ready to buy just didn't hold water. Not that things couldn't have been done differently, and an overlap with the in-car market for this sort of talking DAB product does look like a missed opportunity . What chance of the parallel idea of an interface to take, say, an SD card add-on? Yes, I know these card formats like so many things change, but then so do the product lines of Pure and their likes. I do think this idea should be a goer, but where's the impetus for funding development of some sort of standard? Oh, and what's so wrong with changing the subject lines of threads like this? As so often, we've drifted considerably. Cheers, From Ray I can be contacted off-list at: mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- Jackie Cairns Chris, yes I know it does. But that drives me up the wall because by the time you've got it to spell a line of text, the display has changed. I don't think Pure are going to do anything else to that radio, which is a pity. Like all things that use a tagging system, they outdate very quickly. Jackie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Hallsworth" <christopherhallsworth71@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 8:50 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. > Hi, the Pure Sonus 1 XT does, but only by pressing and holding the info > button, and only then the recorded voice will spell out the text rather > than read it word by word. Wish they'd improve on that, but there you go. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jackie Cairns" <cairnsplace@xxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 1:20 PM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. > > >> Hi Wendy >> >> The Netgem box no longer provides accurate channel names of some >> stations. This is because it was originally tagged to speak certain >> channel names, and updates have caused its tagging system to go >> out-of-date. But since I don't watch much TV other than news and sport, >> it doesn't affect me. >> >> I am curious to know, however, whether the Media Centre from Portset you >> mention you have lets you find out the name of a song on a DAB station >> using the text system. Lots of stations now show the names of the track >> they are playing, and I wonder if you can find out that info on the >> Centre? >> >> Jackie >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Wendy Sharpe" <w.sharpe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:53 PM >> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. >> >> >>>I think there were some dots in the URL which should be slashes. Try: >>> >>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment/index.html >>> >>> This gives details of TV's with audio description and the Logic and >>> Portset >>> equipment. The Logic is very cheap from Curries, but it doesn't talk, >>> so >>> not much use to anyone who can't see the screen. A pity Netgem have >>> stopped >>> making their set top box. >>> Wendy >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of >>> David W Wood >>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:46 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. >>> >>> Hi Gordon: >>> >>> The full URL doesn't work, with an audio error message from the page. >>> Also saying something about one colour to go back, and another continue. >>> >>> www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes does work however. >>> >>> David >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf >>> Of >>> Gordon Keen >>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:38 >>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Cc: Gordon Keen >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. >>> >>> Strange, safari went straight to it and I've just browsed through the >>> models available. >>> World wide weirdness! >>> Cheers >>> G >>> From glorious Devon, England. >>> >>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 12:26, David W Wood wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Gordon - this link gives: >>>> >>>> This page is not available >>>> >>>> David >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On >>>> Behalf Of >>>> Gordon Keen >>>> Sent: 02 December 2007 12:16 >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Cc: Gordon Keen >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Portset. >>>> >>>> Hi >>>> For alternatives check out: >>>> http://www.tvhelp.org.uk/audes/equipment.index.html >>>> Hopefully competition will force down prices in the not too distant >>>> future. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> G >>>> From glorious Devon, England. >>>> >>>> On 2 Dec 2007, at 11:03, Jackie Cairns wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My only comment, and please feel free to jump on me if you want >>>> folks (though not literally) (smile), is that it's a rip-off for >>>> £620 or >>>> whatever it costs. I know it speaks, but £620 for that? Phew! >>>> >>>> I loved their Talking Teletext unit when I had mine, but that was >>>> when there wasn't so much information available elsewhere. Certain >>>> Freeview >>>> boxes, while they don't provide speech navigation, do offer Audio >>>> Description, and there are also lots of DAISY players on the market >>>> to tap >>>> into. I just think it's well OTT. >>>> >>>> Jackie >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: sue morgan <mailto:sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 12:35 AM >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Portset. >>>> >>>> Hi list. >>>> >>>> I've been reading about the Portset Accessible Freeview >>>> Receiver and I'm quite interested in it. I'm wondering if anyone on >>>> this >>>> list has one, or knows anything about them. I've listened to the >>>> audio demo >>>> on the Portset website and it seems very accessible. >>>> >>>> Any feedback would be grate as I'd love to have an >>>> accessible freeview receiver. >>>> >>>> Sue. >>>> e-mail sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> mobile 07968825286 >>>> msn sue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> skype suemorgan1006 >>>> >>>> >>>> Gordon Keen >>>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: >>>> 01/12/2007 >>>> 12:05 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.12/1163 - Release Date: >>>> 01/12/2007 >>>> 12:05 >>>> >>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>> >>> >>> Gordon Keen >>> gordonkeen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq