Sorry for the off topic question. I have just received a set of braille playing cards from rnib. the diamonds, I assume, are marked with a d. The spades, I assume, are marked with an S. The other suits are marked with an x and a k. Which of these denotes the clubs and hearts, please?! A stupid question, perhaps, but they don't make any sense to me! cheers, Mark Threadgold ** To leave the list, send a message to:- ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq