Hi John,
Sorry I thought the hospital gave you the number. My apologies.
All the best
Steve
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John Farley (Redacted sender "john_farley" for DMARC)
Sent: 26 February 2017 16:37
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
Yes, Steve, I accept your Comment; however, the hospital did not give me the
number. My first communication with my brother was when he rang me to let me
know how I could contact him. Unfortunately I don't think he was in a state
to ask the hospital authorities about the costs of the phone call.
I put it down to a lesson well learnt.
Regards, John
Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
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Steve Nutt
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 3:39 PM
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Hi John,
Thinking about this though, and with respect, if a hospital gave you a 07
number, you would surely check that before you rang it? It's not likely
that a hospital would give you a mobile phone number, is it?
All the best
Steve
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Sent: 26 February 2017 11:40
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
Yes, trace, I did complain, but to no effect. Their response was that it was
nothing to do with them and that it was an outsource company providing the
service. "After all, they need to cover their costs and make a profit" I was
told.
~~That is the problem with outsourcing of anything. All of the various
outsource companies who provide a service, of any sort, are in it as a
business and as such need to make a profit to satisfy their own
shareholders.
That may be considered to be wrong, but there is also an argument which goes
along the lines of an expert service, such as a hospital, as an example,
should concentrate on what they are expert at and let others who are expert
in the ancillary areas carry out those services. Full state socialism would
say that this should be all done by the state, but that is not where we are.
Some may say for the worse, some for the better.
Regards, John
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Spring Flower
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2017 11:23 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
i trust you complained to the hospital and told them you wanted a refund, i
would have for definite. that's apalling.
you must have been calling the equivelant of a mobile number and by rights
it should have been one.
trace
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 10:28 PM
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Hi Trace,this was appalling.
The one thing that I have come across in this aspect was one time when
my brother was in hospital in Kent, with pancreatitis and extremely
ill. It can be somewhat grave, if not fatal. He did recover.
The point was that he rang me from a 07 number. In my ignorance, I
thought this was a mobile rated cost number and was quite happy to
call him back on my mobile phone which is on a call package.
It turned out that in fact I was paying what I thought were
extortionate fees for the pleasure of ringing my brother in hospital.
They were making money out of people ringing their patients. I thought
His wife then bought his own mobile phone in to prevent this in the
future dozen or so days that I called him.
So, beware of all phone calls that you do not know who they came from.
Regards, John
Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
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Behalf Of Spring Flower
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 6:07 PM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
oh, after i'm done swearing at them i then just leave the line open,
the phone companies are actually as bad in some ways, take
thesepremium rate
numbers that in the past people have rung not knowing they'd be
charged an arm and a leg for doing so, the phone companies say that
they can't do anything about them, of course they can as its the phone
companies who we pay our bills to and so it must be they who pass on
the money, hardly roket science not to is it.
trace
oh and, the employees are as much to blame as the employers, if that's
actualoly the set up,
trace
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:54 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
Hi Trace,
I understand why you do that, but I see little point in using any
invective, vulgarity or profanity against these people.
As far as they are concerned they are employees of a larger employer
who is actually responsible for their efforts. While we recognise
that what they are doing is totally wrong, it may not be so in their
view. They are just earning a living.
My reaction when they do come through and I have the time is to see
how long I can hold them on the phone without giving them any
personal information at all. If I can then keep the line open for
longer then the better it is.
It is their employers that the authorities need to get their hands on
and then confiscate all of their equipment, destroy it and then
restrict their movements in the usual way for criminals.
Regards, John
Tel: +44 (0) 1442 259243
Mob: +44 (0) 7815 056076
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Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2017 4:24 PM
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i usually give them what for in very un lady like terminology too,
ttrace
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From: "Jackie Brown" <jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 12:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
We got a withheld number yesterday, and when I answered, this person
told me he was from Microsoft, and advised me to check my computer.
Well I just love this sort of thing, so I gave him a real mouthful
which is not fit for repeating here. Sometimes I can give these
scammers a wind-up, but I didn't have time for it yesterday, so he
got an earful of abuse instead.
Wherever
possible, people should reveal their number, but those who are ex
directory often won't.
Kind regards,
Jackie Brown
Email: Jackieannbrown62@xxxxxxxxx
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@thebrownsplace Skype name: thejackmate
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Behalf Of Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 22 February 2017 11:29
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
fair point, it's a difficult one in that case. I always tend to give
my mobile number to hospitals and doctors, at least if my phone
reads out that it's with held I can choose to answer or just divert
them to voicemail.
Most
medical centers do tend to leave voicemails.
cheers,
Mo.
On 22/02/2017 11:26, John Farley (Redacted sender john_farley for
DMARC)
wrote:
The trouble is MO, is that we do have some friends who live
overseas and we do want to take those calls.
Regards, John
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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2017 10:58 AM
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: New Form of Unwanted Telephone Scam Call
Hi John.
I would block calls from international numbers and also calls from
with held numbers. Your provider should be able to do this. since
i've done this, touch wood we've not had any nusence calls.
cheers,
Mo.
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wrote:
Hello list,me
I am not sure if this is off-topic, but I am sure the moderator
will let
know if it is.claim
I am registered with both the Telephone Preference Service and the
Mobile Preference Service which keeps the majority of nuisance
calls from hitting me. However I do still get a number of
international calls which do get through. That is, as I understand
it, because TPS and MPS only cover calls emanating from within the UK.
Both yesterday and today I have had a call from a withheld and an
international number that claims to be working on behalf of TPS.
They
to have been notified by my phone supplier that I have beenas
receiving international calls which turn out to be scams. After a
few moments of discussion with them and, of course, with no
information being given by me they have both abruptly hung up. In
my view that proves they were both scams.
So don't get caught by this new one.
I am aware that I can get things like call blockers and also
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