[access-uk] Re: K-NFB Reader comes to mobile phone

Andy, I think, in fairness, Mervyn has been saying the same to the powers that 
be.  But this is what is coming out at the moment.

I asked about it all because people know I have the Reader anyway, so have 
asked me privately how much the new concept is going to be.  Rather than 
speculate, I decided to find out, and checked that it would be ok to post.

Jackie
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Andy Collins 
  To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:42 PM
  Subject: [access-uk] Re: K-NFB Reader comes to mobile phone


  Thanks Jackie for the explanation. I wonder why this would be the case when 
buying the software separately; yes, it will only work on the N82 for now, but 
later this year, other phones will have the xenon flash as I understand it, so 
won't it be like buying JFW to install on to any old PC, Or TALKS for any 
mobile? It is still sofgtware for the blind, so in my opinion should be 0 
rated! -

  Andy
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Jackie Cairns 
    To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:32 PM
    Subject: [access-uk] Re: K-NFB Reader comes to mobile phone


    Hi Andy

    I understand that the Inland Revenue has said that the product cannot be 
zero-rated because it is a commercially available phone which is just being 
layered with software.  So some sort of compromise has been reached where there 
has to be some rating implemented as a halfway house I guess.

    And yes, the software is about £1,100 on its own if you want it for your 
N82, but bear in mind it has to go on the N82 if you have one.

    Jackie
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Andy Collins 
      To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 12:22 PM
      Subject: [access-uk] Re: K-NFB Reader comes to mobile phone


      Jackie - Thanks for checking this out for us.

      do you understand why this has a vat rating at all, when software such as 
JFW and TALKS is 0 rated? Are you abel to confirm that the software alone cost 
£1080? -

      Andy
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jackie Cairns 
        To: Access UK Mailing List 
        Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2008 11:44 AM
        Subject: [access-uk] K-NFB Reader comes to mobile phone


        Hi All

        Please forgive me for cross-posting this information, but I know there 
are individuals on lists that will want to be aware of it.

        Some know I have the K-NFB Reader, and have read that it is to be 
launched on a mobile phone with TALKS.  As I have been asked about the cost, I 
decided to check this out to pass on, so below is what I have been advised by 
Sight and Sound, who are the only UK dealer for this project.

        The K-NFB Reader software will come on an N82 mobile with TALKS 
Premium.  If you buy the whole thing from scratch, it will cost £1,725 plus a 
VAT rating of 5%.  This includes a couple of hours training.

        If you already own a K-NFB Reader, and wish to trade it in for the 
mobile containing all the above software, it will cost £885 plus a 5% VAT 
rating.

        Additionally, there are other options you can consider.  These include 
purchasing the K-NFB software on its own to put on an N82 you may wish to 
purchase separately.

        Currently, the N82 is the only mobile which supports this software.

        I haven't seen the phone myself so I don't know what its specifications 
are, but it shouldn't be too difficult to obtain them by looking on
        www.expansys.com
        or other mobile phone outlets such as Vodafone, O2, Orange etc.

        There has not yet been an official launch of this product by Sight and 
Sound, but this information has come from Mervyn Robertson, so it is valid and 
up-to-date.

        Hope some of you find this useful.

        Jackie


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