Roger, I'm pretty sure I heard about his death last year, and did wonder what would happen with the next HP book. Don't think I dreamt it, but you never know <smile> - Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 4:49 PM Subject: [access-uk] Jim Dale was - new accessible mp3 player | Hi Andy | | I hadn't heard that and looking on the web there is no mention of it at all. | | Roger | | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. | | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 3:06 PM | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | | | > Roger - Him being dead could be a stumbling block :] - Andy | > ----- Original Message ----- | > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx> | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:34 PM | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | > | > | Hi Andy | > | | > | Why do you think Jim Dale won't read the new book? If the money is right | > I'm | > | sure he will. | > | | > | Roger | > | | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. | > | | > | | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 1:27 PM | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | | > | | > | > To be honest, I have prefered the Jim Dale readings, but JK is going | > to | > | > have | > | > a problem getting him to read the new book! :] | > | > | > | > I'm always pleased to hear of improvements, and it does sound like the | > | > RNIB | > | > library will have improved from the change in law, but what about | > their | > | > thousands of old recordings, have they been dropped? I would expect | > not - | > | > Andy | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > From: "roger south" <roger.south@xxxxxxxxxx> | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:45 PM | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | > | > | > | > | > |J K Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, stipulated the | > audio | > | > | versions must be read by Stephen Fry in the UK and Jim Dale in the | > US. | > | > To | > | > my | > | > | knowledge no other versions are available at all. | > | > | | > | > | Out of interest to Andy the RNIB books are now all read by | > professional | > | > | readers. Mainly actors but also news readers and disc jockeys. | > People | > | > who | > | > | use their voices in their profession and therefore have more control | > of | > | > the | > | > | tones used. | > | > | | > | > | I have a very severe hearing loss, 97/98%, so quality sound is | > vitally | > | > | important to me but I don't often have problems with either the RNIB | > or | > | > the | > | > | CALIBRE books which are the ones recorded in the later years. I | > | > understand | > | > | they both once used volunteers who may have been a little lacking | > but | > | > those | > | > | days are long gone. | > | > | | > | > | Roger | > | > | | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 12:31 PM | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | > | | > | > | | > | > | > Andy, and further to Iain's comment, the version sold by RNIB will | > | > | > indeed be the Stephen Fry reading of HP. You see RNIB is allowed | > to | > | > | > DAISIFY commercial books since the changes in copyright law. | > | > | > | > | > | > Cheers, | > | > | > | > | > | > From Ray | > | > | > I can be contacted off-list at: | > | > | > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | > | > | > | > | > | > -----Original Message----- | > | > | > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On | > | > | > Behalf | > | > | > Of Iain Lackie | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Books in the RNIB talking book library are not read by some bloke | > they | > | > | > have | > | > | > dragged in offf the streets. | > | > | > | > | > | > Iain | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > From: "Andy Collins" <andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > Ah! but is the RNIB daisy recording of the new HP narrated by | > Stephen | > | > | > Frye, | > | > | > or some bloke they've dragged in off the street as with other of | > their | > | > | > 'recordings? :] - Andy | > | > | > | > | > | > ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> | > | > | > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 1:28 PM | > | > | > Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | > | Roger, I can agree with you about the mark up generally applied | > to | > | > | > | specialist stuff for us, and almost expected by them as of | > right. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Harry Potter audio version? A bit different, or so I contend. | > | > | > First | > | > | > | off Stephen Fry won't be paid peanuts for his commercial | > recording | > | > | > of | > | > | > | it, plus paying for studio time, art work, distribution etc. | > | > | > Visually | > | > | > | impaired people are not the only audience either for these | > books. | > | > | > OK, | > | > | > | so this is a popular title that will be bought by many thousands | > of | > | > | > | people, but don't forget that public libraries are a gaurantteed | > | > | > | market for audio book producers, and like a good bit of access | > tech | > | > | > | sales, the price can be wound up to soak the big buyers at a | > price | > | > | > | that couldn't be got otherwise. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Synical though that view just (might) be, these are the | > realities | > as | > | > | > I | > | > | > | see them. This said, audio books, particularly unabridged ones, | > are | > | > | > | always going to be more exspensive than print versions. The | > only | > | > | > way | > | > | > | this reality can be broken is with the sort of subsidy that RNIB | > as | > | > | > a | > | > | > | charity can bring into play when it sells the small number of | > | > | > talking | > | > | > | books that it does. There Roger, as a blind person, is your | > way | > | > | > out | > | > | > | of getting the latest HP at a similar price to your print book | > | > | > buying | > | > | > | genral public. Buy a DAISY version of the latest HP from RNIB. | > (No | > | > | > | commission on that sale, unfortunately.) No wonder I've never | > made | > | > | > it | > | > | > | in the big bad world of business! | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Cheers, | > | > | > | | > | > | > | From Ray | > | > | > | I can be contacted off-list at: | > | > | > | mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx | > | > | > | -----Original Message----- | > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On | > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | I do understand the Milestone and the BC have more functions but | > not | > | > | > | as ;;many as costing £200 more. I'm a firm believer in the | > | > | > | manufacturers see the disabled as a means of making more money | > with | > | > | > | the equipment we need. I'm convinced there is a price cartel | > that | > | > | > | keeps the price up because then we can't go elsewhere. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | When something like the Zen Stone comes along it emphasises just | > | > | > that | > | > | > | point. Look at the price of audio books. The new Harry Potter is | > | > | > | priced I believe at £85. I will be able to buy a print copy a | > few | > | > | > days | > | > | > | after the release on the 21 July for around £8.99 if previous | > books | > | > | > | are anything to go by. But for the sake of a few CD's at around | > 8 | > | > | > | pence each and the box to put it in we'll say a fiver I have to | > pay | > | > | > | £85. Now if that isn't ripping off the disabled what is. The | > same | > is | > | > | > | true of the players you mentioned but I'm climbing on my soapbox | > so | > | > | > | I'll shut up now. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Roger | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > | From: Ian Macrae | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Makes you wonder why the milestone is so expensive comparatively | > | > | > | dunnit. any views? | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] | > On | > | > | > | Behalf Of roger south | > | > | > | Sent: 30 May 2007 11:15 | > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] Re: new accessible mp3 player | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | I've ordered one of these from Amazon at £27.99 plus p & p | > totalling | > | > | > | altogether £30.12. It arrives tomorrow and sounds from the | > write-ups | > | > | > | very good. But at that price if it's not what I want I can give | > it | > | > | > | away as a present and not lose any sleep. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Roger | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | ----- Original Message ----- | > | > | > | From: Adrian Higginbotham | > | > | > | To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; bcab@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | > | > | > | Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:50 AM | > | > | > | Subject: [access-uk] new accessible mp3 player | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Just read about the upcoming release of a new screenless audible | > | > | > | compatible mp3 player, at under £30 for 1gg version. and no | > | > | > | proprietory software like Itunes, just use it like any USB | > drive. | > | > | > | http://accessbrit.wordpress.com/ | > | > | > | | > | > | > | | > | > | > | Adrian Higginbotham | > | > | > | > | > | > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- | > | > | > ** 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