[access-uk] Re: Jaws Reading problems
- From: "Ray's Home" <rays-home@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:01:08 +0100
Hi Barry. Although I'm a Window-Eyes user, always have been, I'm not going
to try and sell it to you, smile. there's no money in that for me, and I
try, limitations of personal knowledge permitting, to be even handed in
these things.
W-Ewill support pretty well all the MS Office apps you are likely to use
with version 6 due some time soon. There is no doubt that W-E is less
flexible in the field of automation of tasks in programs that are much less
screen reader friendly out of the box. Having said this, some W-E users are
having considerable success with Autohotkey, a free, and pretty
sophisticated macro program, which presently, is listed on GW's support
pages.
In any case, I'd say that much of the flexibleness offered by JFW often
comes at a considerable price in buying in scripts that take full advantage
of the way out it offers to people who must work with programs that aren't
written the way maybe they should be written in the first place. Don't want
to pursue that argument here though.
Returning to GW, just two things.
1. Its easier to buy Window-Eyes now. The spread payments plan whereby W-E
works fully for a nonth until you pay the next instalment is available to UK
users, easing the financial burden.
2. You will have to get used to different ways of working. The mouse keys
in Window-Eyes are the closest thing I believe to the JAWS cursor, and many
W-E users are pretty content to use these it seems to me, more than many
typical JAWS users are prepared to use all the facilities offered by the
JAWS cursor. This is all part of the different ways in wich W-E and JFW
users become used to using their programs and screen readers.
Don't forget too Barry, the changing of keystrokes in W-E is a good deal
easier than in JFW. GW micro too is offering a JAWS keyboard layout option
which is downloadable now and will become an integral part of W-E 6.
I'd only end by saying Barry, that its my impression that if you do decide
to stick with JAWS you had better upgrade. Its often seemed to me the
penalty you pay for not keeping current is very high with JAWS. GW does
offer a pretty competitive SMA for what that's worth.
Hope that's been of some help.
From Ray
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Dj Paddy
Hya Chris.
I'm going to find the move difficult but seriously I see no future in jfw.
Especially for a Computer Science student such as myself.
I've tryed the jfw keyboard layout in a weye demo but would prefer to just
make a full switch, uninstall the damn thing and be done with it!
If only weye's laptop keyboard layout was better I'd be laughing.
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Hallsworth" <chrishallsworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Jaws Reading problems
> Aww, let me pass on my sympathies. I had lots of JFW issues, and never
> looked back when using WE 5.5. You'lll love it! Anyway, in answer to your
> question, I haven't a clue. I don't know if you know this, but WE 5.5
> relies on the document object model (DOM) in both Microsoft Word and
> Excel, so documents will be read out accurately 100% of the time, whereas
> JAWS relies on the screen, not the DOM, crap eh? No, the problem doesn't
> occur in virtual cursor mode as that relies on MSAA. Anyway good luck with
> the move, and please let us know what you think of it. Look forward to
> hear from you.
>
> Dj Paddy wrote:
>> Hi guys.
>>
>> I've had this problem for as long as I can remember. I've experienced it
>> on no less than three machines with a half dozen different graphics
>> cards.
>>
>> JFW Version, 6.0.
>> XP Pro.
>> Everythings set to classic, colour depth is 32bit, all effects aare
>> turned off.
>>
>> My problem is that Jaws will an awful lot of the time not read an entire
>> line of text in Notepad r Wordpad or Microsoft Word. (Any version), and
>> also in Dreamweaver 8.
>>
>> It makes editing anything laborious to the point that I can't be bothered
>> half the time. I'm getting Window Eyes 5.5 v soon because I'm frankly
>> fed up with JFW. But in the meantime I need this resolved.
>>
>> For example. I have in notepad my websites index.html file.
>>
>> It will read, line 1 of the following only if I highlight the text and
>> line 2 no problem.
>>
>> This does not happen in virtual cursr mode such as in Outlook Express, IE
>> etc. It also does not happen in Windows Explorer.
>>
>> Line1: ///<p> Thank you very much for being important visitor number
>> </p>///
>> Line 2: ///<p><!--#include
>> virtual="/count.cgi?page=homepage&type=text&reloads=0"--> </p>///
>>
>>
>> Any ideas folks?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bary
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