I don't know about anyone else here, but my head spins when I try to understand the seemingly endless opportunities to save money on phone calls. I've come across two interesting sites that a few of you might care to look at. The first is of general interest and gives, for me, a good overview of the various methods and carriers when using VOIP and computer or hardware options. This article is at - and sorry for the long link: http://www.vnunet.com/computeractive/features/2146581/cheap-online-calls-cheap-talk The second site to catch my interest was prompted by a message to TAFN earlier today about cheap landline to mobile calls and it seems to involve a complicated process whereby you use a carrier based in another country to call a UK line, and actually involves using the UK International code as part of the process. See if you can understand it by going to: http://www.cleverates.com/index.php Well, at least that link is more managable! Any comments on-list or to me personally welcome. Ray Personal emails: Email me at mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq