[access-uk] Re: Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding

  • From: william lomas <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 08:46:07 +0100

ah ok i missread it 

On Oct 29, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Colin Fowler wrote:

> the list is for equipment that access to work won't fund Wil?
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" 
> <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:26 AM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding
> 
> 
>> i see no mention of standard equipment for a blind person though
>> screenreaders should be in that list if we are good enough at interview for 
>> any job we should be catered for
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Colin Fowler wrote:
>> 
>>> There's a couple of inclusions that I would hope wouldn't be dismissed out 
>>> of hand as they appear on the list - scanners, and voice recorders.
>>> 
>>> As far as the contribution element by employers goes, it I believe is 
>>> correct that Public authorities shouldn't get Access to work funding, it 
>>> just seems crazy that central government funding is being used for public 
>>> authority support for employment in this manner. Private company 
>>> contributions I think need to be looked at differently too, if you employ 
>>> more than 500 people than you should be expected to contribute a minimum of 
>>> 50% towards costs. Access to work has been used for so long for employees 
>>> to duck their responsibilities to meet the costs of making reasonable 
>>> adjustments.
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" 
>>> <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx>
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:26 PM
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> I think the list of standard equipment an employer has to provide seems 
>>>> pretty fare other than the voice activated software as that can be quite 
>>>> costly. Everything else on that list is certainly what the public sector 
>>>> would happily provide so I'd hope the private sector would do the same. As 
>>>> for other changes I've got a meeting regarding them on Tuesday so I'll be 
>>>> interested to hear what guidance is given to us.
>>>> 
>>>> Peter
>>>> 
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Mike Higgins" <m.j.higgins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:03 PM
>>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Cc: <DISABILITY-RESEARCH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Subject: [access-uk] Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding
>>>> 
>>>>> FYI Apologies for cross-posting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mike
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Burnip" 
>>>>> <linda_burnip@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: <danmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:55 PM
>>>>> Subject: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> this seems to have been kept quiet. Please pass it onto any organisation
>>>>> you're involved ina nd ask them to contact EHRC as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Equality and Human Rights Commission EHRC
>>>>> 3 More London, Riverside Tooley Street, London, SE1 2RG
>>>>> Please share the letter with others and ask them to persuade any other
>>>>> organisations and Trade Unions they are involved with to write to the
>>>>> EHRC as well - maybe we can persuade them to conduct a proper review.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> To: Mr. Trevor Phillips, OBE
>>>>> Chair of the Equality & Human Rights Commission
>>>>> London
>>>>> 25th October 2010
>>>>> Re: recent changes to the operation of the Access to Work scheme
>>>>> Dear Mr. Phillips
>>>>> The National Association of Disability Practitioners [NADP] is a 
>>>>> membership
>>>>> organisation of over 700 people working towards disability equality in
>>>>> post-compulsory education and training. Many of our members are themselves
>>>>> disabled people. NADP members are totally committed to facilitating 
>>>>> disabled
>>>>> students throughout their journey including into employment and views 
>>>>> Access
>>>>> to Work as an integral part of this system.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We understand that there have been two recent changes relating to the
>>>>> operation of the Access to Work scheme:
>>>>> 1. an increase in the employer's financial contribution
>>>>> 2. some changes to the items which Access to Work expects the employer to
>>>>> supply, without A2W assistance (see statement and list in Appendix).
>>>>> Both of these changes have the effect of putting more of the costs of
>>>>> supporting a disabled employee back on to the employer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The NADP Executive Board is seriously concerned about the potential impact
>>>>> of any decrease
>>>>> to the support given by government to employers in encouraging them to 
>>>>> make
>>>>> appropriate provision for the employment of disabled people.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We believe that the Access to Work scheme improves the employment 
>>>>> prospects
>>>>> of disabled people and represents excellent value for money, especially 
>>>>> when
>>>>> compared to the cost to the state of the various benefits that would
>>>>> otherwise be paid to unemployed disabled people. With a Spending Review
>>>>> targeting reductions in Incapacity Benefit, we believe that strengthening
>>>>> Access to Work would assist in enabling former claimants to obtain 
>>>>> suitable
>>>>> employment.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The NADP would like to recommend that the EHRC review the recent Access to
>>>>> Work decisions in the light of the potential real cost of limiting the
>>>>> prospect of progress towards disability equality in the workplace. Yours
>>>>> sincerely
>>>>> Appendix: text of emailed statement received from a senior officer at 
>>>>> Access
>>>>> to Work:
>>>>> 
>>>>> --- On Tue, 19/10/10, Beasley John JCP CARDIFF COMPANIES HOUSE
>>>>> <JOHN.BEASLEY1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Beasley John JCP CARDIFF COMPANIES HOUSE
>>>>> <JOHN.BEASLEY1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: RE: changes to Access to Work - formal request from NADP for a
>>>>> statement
>>>>> 
>>>>> The following statement covers the changes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It is the legal responsibility of employers to provide reasonable
>>>>> adjustments to allow disabled staff to do their work. The Access to Work
>>>>> programme is to provide funding for equipment and support that would be
>>>>> above and beyond what is reasonable for an employer to supply.
>>>>> 
>>>>> What support is regarded as "standard and reasonable" is under constant
>>>>> review and guidance to our staff is regularly updated to reflect ever
>>>>> changing work practices, I.T. advancements and accepted industry 
>>>>> standards.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As part of this latest update a revised list of equipment has been 
>>>>> included
>>>>> in the Access to Work guidance in order to assist advisers in
>>>>> making operational decisions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have attached the the list of examples, which is not definitive. If
>>>>> you require any furhter information, please do not hesitate to contact
>>>>> me
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> **********************************************************************
>>>>>> 
>>>>> To the email was attached a Microsoft Word document as follows:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Standard Equipment
>>>>> 
>>>>> The following list provides examples of items that should be considered as
>>>>> standard equipment and so cannot be funded by Access to Work. The list is
>>>>> not intended to be exhaustive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Access to Work believe that in normal circumstances an employer should
>>>>> provide these items as part of their Disability Discrimination Act duty to
>>>>> make reasonable adjustments.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Analogue hearing aids
>>>>> (all digital hearing aids require SEO approval)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chairs
>>>>> (with the exception of very specialist, bespoke examples which require SEO
>>>>> approval)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Desks/extenders/bridges/feet/desk raisers
>>>>> Armrests
>>>>> Gel rests
>>>>> Perching Stools
>>>>> Backrests/wedges/back friend/cushions/swivel pads
>>>>> Monitor arms
>>>>> Desk Top Computers
>>>>> Screens
>>>>> Screen Raisers
>>>>> Keyboards (including overlays)
>>>>> Mice
>>>>> Printers
>>>>> Scanners
>>>>> Fax Machines
>>>>> Copiers
>>>>> All Telephony
>>>>> Document Holders /writing slopes
>>>>> Flexdesk
>>>>> Footstools
>>>>> General office equipment (e.g. staplers, hole punches etc.)
>>>>> Headphones
>>>>> Mobile Phones
>>>>> GPS devises/Sat Navs
>>>>> Laptop /lapstands
>>>>> I pad / i-mac tablets
>>>>> Trolley cases
>>>>> Drawer Pedestal
>>>>> Stationary (e.g. pens etc,)
>>>>> Spectacles
>>>>> Clothing (gloves, boots etc.)
>>>>> Voice activated software
>>>>> Walking aids (sticks, frames, Rollators)
>>>>> Chair-ups
>>>>> White Boards
>>>>> Voice recorders
>>>>> Internet connections/rentals for home working
>>>>> Window blinds
>>>>> Lighting (Daylight lighting, Helix Desk Lamp etc.)
>>>>> Vehicles appropriate to the job role - such as tractors for farm work, 
>>>>> fork
>>>>> lift trucks for warehouse work or taxi’s for hire
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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