ah ok i missread it On Oct 29, 2010, at 8:43 AM, Colin Fowler wrote: > the list is for equipment that access to work won't fund Wil? > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "william lomas" > <lomaswilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Friday, October 29, 2010 8:26 AM > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding > > >> i see no mention of standard equipment for a blind person though >> screenreaders should be in that list if we are good enough at interview for >> any job we should be catered for >> >> On Oct 29, 2010, at 8:07 AM, Colin Fowler wrote: >> >>> There's a couple of inclusions that I would hope wouldn't be dismissed out >>> of hand as they appear on the list - scanners, and voice recorders. >>> >>> As far as the contribution element by employers goes, it I believe is >>> correct that Public authorities shouldn't get Access to work funding, it >>> just seems crazy that central government funding is being used for public >>> authority support for employment in this manner. Private company >>> contributions I think need to be looked at differently too, if you employ >>> more than 500 people than you should be expected to contribute a minimum of >>> 50% towards costs. Access to work has been used for so long for employees >>> to duck their responsibilities to meet the costs of making reasonable >>> adjustments. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Holdstock" >>> <peterholdstock@xxxxxxx> >>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 9:26 PM >>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding >>> >>> >>>> I think the list of standard equipment an employer has to provide seems >>>> pretty fare other than the voice activated software as that can be quite >>>> costly. Everything else on that list is certainly what the public sector >>>> would happily provide so I'd hope the private sector would do the same. As >>>> for other changes I've got a meeting regarding them on Tuesday so I'll be >>>> interested to hear what guidance is given to us. >>>> >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>> From: "Mike Higgins" <m.j.higgins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Thursday, October 28, 2010 7:03 PM >>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Cc: <DISABILITY-RESEARCH@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Subject: [access-uk] Fw: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding >>>> >>>>> FYI Apologies for cross-posting. >>>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Burnip" >>>>> <linda_burnip@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> To: <danmail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 7:55 PM >>>>> Subject: [danmail] cuts to access to work funding >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> this seems to have been kept quiet. Please pass it onto any organisation >>>>> you're involved ina nd ask them to contact EHRC as well. >>>>> >>>>> Equality and Human Rights Commission EHRC >>>>> 3 More London, Riverside Tooley Street, London, SE1 2RG >>>>> Please share the letter with others and ask them to persuade any other >>>>> organisations and Trade Unions they are involved with to write to the >>>>> EHRC as well - maybe we can persuade them to conduct a proper review. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: Mr. Trevor Phillips, OBE >>>>> Chair of the Equality & Human Rights Commission >>>>> London >>>>> 25th October 2010 >>>>> Re: recent changes to the operation of the Access to Work scheme >>>>> Dear Mr. Phillips >>>>> The National Association of Disability Practitioners [NADP] is a >>>>> membership >>>>> organisation of over 700 people working towards disability equality in >>>>> post-compulsory education and training. Many of our members are themselves >>>>> disabled people. NADP members are totally committed to facilitating >>>>> disabled >>>>> students throughout their journey including into employment and views >>>>> Access >>>>> to Work as an integral part of this system. >>>>> >>>>> We understand that there have been two recent changes relating to the >>>>> operation of the Access to Work scheme: >>>>> 1. an increase in the employer's financial contribution >>>>> 2. some changes to the items which Access to Work expects the employer to >>>>> supply, without A2W assistance (see statement and list in Appendix). >>>>> Both of these changes have the effect of putting more of the costs of >>>>> supporting a disabled employee back on to the employer. >>>>> >>>>> The NADP Executive Board is seriously concerned about the potential impact >>>>> of any decrease >>>>> to the support given by government to employers in encouraging them to >>>>> make >>>>> appropriate provision for the employment of disabled people. >>>>> >>>>> We believe that the Access to Work scheme improves the employment >>>>> prospects >>>>> of disabled people and represents excellent value for money, especially >>>>> when >>>>> compared to the cost to the state of the various benefits that would >>>>> otherwise be paid to unemployed disabled people. With a Spending Review >>>>> targeting reductions in Incapacity Benefit, we believe that strengthening >>>>> Access to Work would assist in enabling former claimants to obtain >>>>> suitable >>>>> employment. >>>>> >>>>> The NADP would like to recommend that the EHRC review the recent Access to >>>>> Work decisions in the light of the potential real cost of limiting the >>>>> prospect of progress towards disability equality in the workplace. Yours >>>>> sincerely >>>>> Appendix: text of emailed statement received from a senior officer at >>>>> Access >>>>> to Work: >>>>> >>>>> --- On Tue, 19/10/10, Beasley John JCP CARDIFF COMPANIES HOUSE >>>>> <JOHN.BEASLEY1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> From: Beasley John JCP CARDIFF COMPANIES HOUSE >>>>> <JOHN.BEASLEY1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> Subject: RE: changes to Access to Work - formal request from NADP for a >>>>> statement >>>>> >>>>> The following statement covers the changes. >>>>> >>>>> It is the legal responsibility of employers to provide reasonable >>>>> adjustments to allow disabled staff to do their work. The Access to Work >>>>> programme is to provide funding for equipment and support that would be >>>>> above and beyond what is reasonable for an employer to supply. >>>>> >>>>> What support is regarded as "standard and reasonable" is under constant >>>>> review and guidance to our staff is regularly updated to reflect ever >>>>> changing work practices, I.T. advancements and accepted industry >>>>> standards. >>>>> >>>>> As part of this latest update a revised list of equipment has been >>>>> included >>>>> in the Access to Work guidance in order to assist advisers in >>>>> making operational decisions. >>>>> >>>>> I have attached the the list of examples, which is not definitive. If >>>>> you require any furhter information, please do not hesitate to contact >>>>> me >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********************************************************************** >>>>>> >>>>> To the email was attached a Microsoft Word document as follows: >>>>> >>>>> Standard Equipment >>>>> >>>>> The following list provides examples of items that should be considered as >>>>> standard equipment and so cannot be funded by Access to Work. The list is >>>>> not intended to be exhaustive. >>>>> >>>>> Access to Work believe that in normal circumstances an employer should >>>>> provide these items as part of their Disability Discrimination Act duty to >>>>> make reasonable adjustments. >>>>> >>>>> Analogue hearing aids >>>>> (all digital hearing aids require SEO approval) >>>>> >>>>> Chairs >>>>> (with the exception of very specialist, bespoke examples which require SEO >>>>> approval) >>>>> >>>>> Desks/extenders/bridges/feet/desk raisers >>>>> Armrests >>>>> Gel rests >>>>> Perching Stools >>>>> Backrests/wedges/back friend/cushions/swivel pads >>>>> Monitor arms >>>>> Desk Top Computers >>>>> Screens >>>>> Screen Raisers >>>>> Keyboards (including overlays) >>>>> Mice >>>>> Printers >>>>> Scanners >>>>> Fax Machines >>>>> Copiers >>>>> All Telephony >>>>> Document Holders /writing slopes >>>>> Flexdesk >>>>> Footstools >>>>> General office equipment (e.g. staplers, hole punches etc.) >>>>> Headphones >>>>> Mobile Phones >>>>> GPS devises/Sat Navs >>>>> Laptop /lapstands >>>>> I pad / i-mac tablets >>>>> Trolley cases >>>>> Drawer Pedestal >>>>> Stationary (e.g. pens etc,) >>>>> Spectacles >>>>> Clothing (gloves, boots etc.) >>>>> Voice activated software >>>>> Walking aids (sticks, frames, Rollators) >>>>> Chair-ups >>>>> White Boards >>>>> Voice recorders >>>>> Internet connections/rentals for home working >>>>> Window blinds >>>>> Lighting (Daylight lighting, Helix Desk Lamp etc.) >>>>> Vehicles appropriate to the job role - such as tractors for farm work, >>>>> fork >>>>> lift trucks for warehouse work or taxi’s for hire >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>>> >>>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>>> ** unsubscribe >>>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>>> ** or send a message, to >>>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>>>> >>>>> >>>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>> ** and in the Subject line type >>>> ** unsubscribe >>>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>>> ** immediately-following link:- >>>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>>> ** or send a message, to >>>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >>> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >>> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> ** and in the Subject line type >>> ** unsubscribe >>> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >>> ** immediately-following link:- >>> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >>> ** or send a message, to >>> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq >>> >> >> ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] >> ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> ** and in the Subject line type >> ** unsubscribe >> ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the >> ** immediately-following link:- >> ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] >> ** or send a message, to >> ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq