This is definitely different to the one I was subscribed to a few months back. On there, it only discussed the American firmware which is ahead of the UK version. They were happy for you to subscribe and ask questions, but they didn't want to know about firmware issues, and why they were ahead of us. In that regard, I have asked the UK dealers when it is likely we will receive the UK version 6, and they don't know. The list I belonged to was via the Hims website, it definitely wasn't Freelists, unless it was an overlap from GW Micro to Hims when they parted company. Anyway this is good news, thanks. Kind Regards, Jackie Cairns -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of karl farrell Sent: 22 September 2011 11:01 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Sense email list Hello everyone With regard to Braille Sense lists, this is what I understand to be the situation on various aspects. As far as I am aware, Force Ten and RNIB sell those Hims products in the UK but I don't know of any lists for users set up by them. I came across the list on Freelists and I don't know who set it up or owns it. It's there and accepts new members so let's join it and share our knowledge. Some people mentioned GW Micro from the USA. They used to sell Hims products in North America, including Braille Sens. They also had an influence on the presentation of the products there and, presumably by the size of their market, the western world in general. They had on the GW Micro site an active Braille Sense list and, although we were not their customers using the US Sense software, they didn't seem to mind us subscribing. Then all of a sudden, Hims decided to market their products themselves in North America. So I found myself no longer subscribed to the GW Micro list and, as far as I know, GW are no longer agents for Hims. So the way you subscribe to the Freelists Braille Sense list is either to go to the Freelists website, the same as with access-uk, or send a blank e-mail with "subscribe" as the subject to braille-sense-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx I've never met or incurred the wrath of the boss of that list but the welcome includes the following:- "... Feel free to discuss any and all aspects of the Braille Sense notetaker. I want this list to be informative for all, so feel free to post questions, comments, thoughts, anything about the Braille Sense. ..." "Two rules: 1. NO OFF TOPIC POSTS. In other words, the only topic of discussion here is the Braille Sense notetaker. 2. Hateful/hostile/mean-spirited posts will *not* be tolerated. If you do it once, I will warn you. If you do it again, I will remove your email address from the group." Go for it if you dare! Karl Farrell -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Pele West Sent: 21 September 2011 10:49 To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille Sense email list Hi Mike Thanks for this. I will join the list as well. How does one actually subscribe to it? Pele West ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq