[access-uk] Re: Accessible or not accessible? Freedom Box and c-saw
- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Sep 2005 12:28:03 +0100
Ray,
Thanks. I'm afraid I don't know much about the Freedom Box, or the
C-Saw enabled browsers, beyond what's written on the web site.
I had to give myself a stern talking to, not to download a trial
just now. I've got exams coming up next month and really ought to get some
studying done... It just looks far more interesting though...
Tink.
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Subject: [access-uk] Re: Accessible or not accessible? Freedom Box and c-saw
A thoughtful contribution from you Tink, as usual. I wonder if I can use
this thread to pose or rephrase a question I asked a day or so back. This
concerns the Key to Freedom USB device. (Ihope I'll be forgiven for
changing the subject line a bit.)
This seems to include the Firefox browser, and they make much of the
simplified access to all manner of programs, including internet browsing.
Is it really that good that newcomers take to it with the ease claimed? It
does all of this too without video hooking.
This brings me to the question, What is this c-saw facility? Looking at
beta release notes of around April, there is talk of c-saw enabled browsers
and bookmark sharing. I understand you can also label links that are not
always meaningful. Is this something to do with the said c-saw too?
Ray
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson"
| Steve,
|
| Window Eyes apparently has the edge over Jaws with Flash links, but
| I'd suggest that the phrase "uk/main_uk.htm" is only easy to interpret
| if you're familiar with links and possibly know a little about the
Internet.
|
| If the person using the web site not only has a visual impairment, but
| is also cognitively impaired, maybe with learning difficulties, how
| accessible do you think they would find those link phrases?
|
| We are assuming too that the user has a recent Flash capable screen
| reader, many people don't have that technology to hand.
|
| It can be argued that people should stay up to date with the latest
| technology, but I don't see that as being a good enough reason to
| prevent someone from accessing some information.
|
| You have a quick mind, an extensive knowledge of your technology, and
| the ability to stay on top of recent versions of your software, but
| you are not representative of the average Internet user, whether VI or
not.
|
|
| The guy who kicked off the WWW, Tim Berners-Lee, put it best:
|
| "The power of the web is in its universality. Access by everyone,
| regardless of disability."
|
| http://www.w3.org/WAI/
|
| You may say that because you can access those links, whilst another
| may not be able to because of their different disability or
| technology, then accessibility is therefore subjective. I don't see it
| that way. If something isn't accessible to everyone, it simply isn't
accessible.
|
| We may be a long way from perfect, but believe me, we are trying.
|
| How on earth did the Belgians get a double look in on the Habitat page
| though? *Grin.
|
| Tink.
|
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