[access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
- From: Adrian Higginbotham <adrian.higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:29:44 +0000
a good presentation is a tool for the speaker to supplement his or her delivery
on the day - there's nothing worse than turning up to an event to find a
speaker that spend their whole time with their back to the audience or with
their head in their laptop reading from slides - you can't hear them and you
could have saved yourself a lot of time and trouble by staying at home and
reading the slides yourself. the down side of this naturally is that what is
an excellent presentation on the day doesn't actually have much value when you
view te slide in isolation later. I know Kel's work and he will have put a lot
of thoght in to that presentation. that you only have half the story available
to you several months after the event isn't his fault. I'm sure thee's enough
n those slides for you to be able to start investigating the topic for yourself
if you actually want to go and try second life.
Adrian Higginbotham
Manager, leading edge research.
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-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Saqib
Sent: 25 November 2009 14:44
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
------------------------------------------Hi sometimes you just have to use
presentations out of choice. If your work place or your course demands it
then you have to just learn to get on with it. I had to carry out a
presentation in Powerpoint and it is not very accessible. I had to make the
most of my residual vision to crack on with the task by using the System
Access magnifier which only helped in a minor capacity. You can't always be
excused from using a presentation related program for the above reasons.
<eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:48 PM
To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
> Fair enough Steve but I was a bit taken aback to find it was a
> presentation that was pretty meaningless to me as a visually impaired
> person.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:42 PM
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>
>
>> Eleanor,
>>
>> I haven't downloaded the presentation myself, so I wasn't aware of this.
>> His CSUN talk was about a wide variety of disabled people who've found
>> Second Life worthwhile; I assumed what was on his website would have
>> been a recording of the Techshare talk rather than just the visual
>> information.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
>> Of Eleanor Burke
>> Sent: 24 November 2009 19:49
>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>
>> I downloaded the presentation out of interest but I was appauled as it
>> meant very little to me as a visually impaired screen reader. I must
>> have downloaded thw wrong thing!!! The presentation in full screen pdf
>> format.
>>
>> Eleanor
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Griffiths, Steve" <Steve.Griffiths@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 5:15 PM
>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>
>>
>>> Probably Kel Smith of Anikto; his presentation at CSUN the best thing
>>> there, and it looks like he's updated it to take the virtual guidedog
>>> project into account. His Techshare presentation is available from
>>> download from http://bit.ly/rnib09.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Adrian Higginbotham
>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 15:40
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>
>>> There was something at techshare this year about a virtual guidedog on
>>> secondlife that could act as your online guide basicly an assistant to
>>> give you contextual information about your surroundings. As damon
>> says
>>> all very unrewarding but possibly important as more and more service
>> are
>>> experimenting with virtual worlds by holding events or launches of
>>> reports and services in world.
>>>
>>>
>>> Adrian Higginbotham
>>> Manager, leading edge research.
>>> DD: 02476797333
>>> E: Adrian.Higginbotham@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> W: www.Becta.org.uk
>>> A: Becta, Millburnhill Road, Science park, Coventry CV4 7JJ.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Damon Rose
>>> Sent: 24 November 2009 14:52
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>
>>> Way too visual I think. About as interesting as trying to paint if you
>>> can't see. Read an article this week about how Second Life is on the
>>> wain.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Griffiths, Steve
>>> Sent: 23 November 2009 08:46
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>
>>> At CSUN 2009 I went to a demonstration of using Second Life with a
>>> screen reader. It was messy, but the project was in its early stages.
>> It
>>> was run on Macs and used a screen reader called Max Voice Plus written
>>> by Charles Mountain (charles.mountain@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx) which
>>> allows you to issue command line instructions to get your avatar to
>>> perform actions, for instance the command "/11 door" would open a
>> door.
>>> At the time a beta of Max Voice Plus was available from
>>> http://www.virtualguidedog.org/tools/. I haven't followed this up, so
>>> can tell you no more I'm afraid.
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> Behalf
>>> Of Peter Holdstock
>>> Sent: 22 November 2009 17:35
>>> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [access-uk] Re: ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>
>>>
>>> I tried using it with JAWS a year ago and it isn't accessible in the
>>> slightest. I did find a second life client which made it partly
>>> accessible but found that it was quite complicated and wasn't
>>> particularly interesting, entertaining or useful. In other words a
>> waste
>>> of time. Sorry as can't remember what the client was called.
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Kevin Morris" <drewdog2060@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2009 4:50 PM
>>> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Subject: [access-uk] ACCESSIBILITY OF SECOND LIFE
>>>
>>>> I've just signed up for a free account with Second Life and would be
>>>> interested to know of any access technology users who are using the
>>> site.
>>>> In particular any tips on using it would Jaws would be appreciated.
>>>> I'm using Jaws 10 and Windows Vista Home Premiunm.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Kevin
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