--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, kirby urner <wittrsamr@...> wrote: > > That tends to be an insipid not-question entertained by nerds with > too much free time on their hands, thinkers of no consequence > who had enough money and privilege to stay out of harm's way > in some cloistered environment> Many activists would say the same about internet posting (or indeed philosophical speculation/argumentation) generally--however the pundit comes down on free will...or anything else. One could always be doing something more important, no? Anyhow, I don't think the claim that arguing for P is a waste of precious time, is much of an argument for arguing that not-P. And, FWIW, I agree with SWM that mixing these political questions with the hoary philosophical question is largely a category mistake. That no tyrant (governmental, corporate, or otherwise) is stopping me from lifting my arm right now is completely irrelevant. It's reminiscent of Johnson's kicking a rock to refute Berkeley. W