Sean wrote: " haughty and broad is preferable to juvenile and narrow" But we have to be careful that we have not become haughty and narrow, too! I guess we must just agree to disagree. That's okay. I look forward to seeing more substantive Wittgenstein-oriented discussions here then. Thanks. SWM --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@...> wrote: > > ... well, here is what I would say: > > 1. If their foolishness is not enough to make you think their non-foolishness > foolish, then I suppose it behooves you to play at the carnival. You are > quite > right to note that I prefer a more quiet and "reclusive" list. I've long > counted > the number of the Analytic folk who have, over time, finally left. I confess > even to deleting a name or two myself, in the comfort of the dark. So we do > have > different visions here, for sure. I'd take a list of 3 good discussants > as preferable to any democracy of urges and confessions. > > But that's just me. > > And my rationalization for it is free-market oriented: why have another of > what > is so common out there? I wanted a walled city, to preserve something that > could > not exist in the open fields of wolves and trolls. > > 2. As you know, we continue to not see eye-to-eye over how I see > Wittgensteinianism. I confess to not being able to "tone down" the thoughts > that > I find most convincing. Were I to "tone down," I would suffocate exactly the > kinds of flowers this garden was built to house. > > I also cannot agree with you about the free-will thing. Here's the > difference. > If Wittgensteinians understand certain conversations to be "false problems" > by > the virtue of the very way they are set up, there is nothing wrong with > either > neglecting those conversations or telling others about the set up. The > failure > that Walter had in the discussion was that he could never defend THE > CONVERSATION. He could only defend his patriotism: the love of the lost > philosophers. That's what it all really was for him and J: a defense of the > social club. > > And so, I really couldn't see the benefit of watching displaced aggression > come > from "company men." What good does it do to have a Pit Bull sending in > comic-book zingers every time he half-understands an idea, solely because he > can't handle his desired occupation being besmirched? I mean, it would be > like a > patriot not being able to discuss gays in the military or something (or > defense > cuts or what not). > > Anyway, I have them on "hold" anytime they want to show they can actually > throw > a thought around. Believe me, we're not missing much. J has potential, of > course, but even he is way too inclined to pout when he thinks his view isn't > being accepted. > > I guess what I've ultimately said to you is that haughty and broad is > preferable > to juvenile and narrow. But I do grant that whatever aesthetic I have adopted > here, you disagree with. Yours is a kind of democratic spirit. And I > understand > that. > > The difference here is really like that of a chosen meal. I've built > the restaurant I want. We'll just leave it at that. > Regards and thanks. > Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq. > Assistant Professor > Wright State University > Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org > SSRN papers: http://tinyurl.com/3eatnrx > Wittgenstein Discussion: http://seanwilson.org/wiki/doku.php?id=wittrs >