[Wittrs] Re: On The Dogs at Analytic & Their Friends

  • From: "SWM" <swmaerske@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 14:04:24 -0000

Sean wrote: " haughty and broad is preferable to juvenile and narrow"

But we have to be careful that we have not become haughty and narrow, too!

I guess we must just agree to disagree. That's okay. I look forward to seeing 
more substantive Wittgenstein-oriented discussions here then.

Thanks.

SWM

--- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@...> wrote:
>
> ... well, here is what I would say:
> 
> 1. If their foolishness is not enough to make you think their non-foolishness 
> foolish, then I suppose it behooves you to play at the carnival. You are 
> quite 
> right to note that I prefer a more quiet and "reclusive" list. I've long 
> counted 
> the number of the Analytic folk who have, over time, finally left. I confess 
> even to deleting a name or two myself, in the comfort of the dark. So we do 
> have 
> different visions here, for sure. I'd take a list of 3 good discussants 
> as preferable to any democracy of urges and confessions.
> 
> But that's just me.
> 
> And my rationalization for it is free-market oriented: why have another of 
> what 
> is so common out there? I wanted a walled city, to preserve something that 
> could 
> not exist in the open fields of wolves and trolls.  
>   
> 2. As you know, we continue to not see eye-to-eye over how I see 
> Wittgensteinianism. I confess to not being able to "tone down" the thoughts 
> that 
> I find most convincing. Were I to "tone down,"  I would suffocate exactly the 
> kinds of flowers this garden was built to house.
> 
> I also cannot agree with you about the free-will thing. Here's the 
> difference. 
> If Wittgensteinians understand certain conversations to be "false problems" 
> by 
> the virtue of the very way they are set up, there is nothing wrong with 
> either 
> neglecting those conversations or telling others about the set up. The 
> failure 
> that Walter had in the discussion was that he could never defend THE 
> CONVERSATION. He could only defend his patriotism: the love of the lost 
> philosophers. That's what it all really was for him and J: a defense of the 
> social club.
> 
> And so, I really couldn't see the benefit of watching displaced aggression 
> come 
> from "company men."  What good does it do to have a Pit Bull sending in 
> comic-book zingers every time he half-understands an idea, solely because he 
> can't handle his desired occupation being besmirched? I mean, it would be 
> like a 
> patriot not being able to discuss gays in the military or something (or 
> defense 
> cuts or what not).
> 
> Anyway, I have them on "hold" anytime they want to show they can actually 
> throw 
> a thought around. Believe me, we're not missing much. J has potential, of 
> course, but even he is way too inclined to pout when he thinks his view isn't 
> being accepted.
> 
> I guess what I've ultimately said to you is that haughty and broad is 
> preferable 
> to juvenile and narrow. But I do grant that whatever aesthetic I have adopted 
> here, you disagree with. Yours is a kind of democratic spirit. And I 
> understand 
> that.
> 
> The difference here is really like that of a chosen meal. I've built 
> the restaurant I want. We'll just leave it at that.         
> Regards and thanks. 
> Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq.
> Assistant Professor
> Wright State University
> Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org
> SSRN papers: http://tinyurl.com/3eatnrx
> Wittgenstein Discussion: http://seanwilson.org/wiki/doku.php?id=wittrs
>



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