Third, it is problematic to try to divide the original meaning into that supported by evidence of what the founders or lawgivers meant and evidence ofwhat was meant in the "times". That is overlapping evidence that is often not very orderly. Much of what the lawgivers meant was uncontroversial and therefore not in evidence, and can only be inferred from evidence of what they studied or what those wrote who we have reason to think were an influence on them. However, in the "times" we get clear evidence that people in America were extremely strict and literal about delegations of authority, which led to my formulation of a right to a presumption of nonauthority[1], and regarded themselves as having a legal, if not a moral, right to do anything for which there was not a narrow governmental power to restrict, subject only to private civil claims. A "presumption of constitutionality" for official actions would have been anathema for lawyers and laypersons alike. If they had anticipated the opinion of Justice Marshall in McCulloch v. Maryland[2], they would not have written the Necessary and Proper Clause in the words theychose, or perhaps not included it at all. The "times" were intensely libertarian. However, it also does not work to look to legal practices of the time[3] as dispositive of meaning. The Constitution is a recitation of legal ideals, notnecessarily of contemporary legal practices, many of which the Founders knew very well were inconsistent with the Constitution. At best we can look to a few exemplary cases of practice they might admire. -- Jon ---------------------------------------------------------- Constitution Society http://constitution.org[4] 2900 W Anderson Ln C-200-322 twitter.com/lex_rex Austin, TX 78757 512/299-5001 jon.roland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx[5]---------------------------------------------- ------------ --- Links --- 1 http://constitution.org/9ll/schol/pnur.htm 2 http://constitutionalism.blogspot.com/2010/12/unnecessary-and-improper.html 3 http://constitutionalism.blogspot.com/2011/02/original-meaning-not-in-much-original.html 4 http://constitution.org 5 mailto:jon.roland@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx