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  • From: Sean Wilson <whoooo26505@xxxxxxxxx>
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Regards and thanks.


Dr. Sean Wilson, Esq.

Assistant Professor

Wright State University

Personal Website: http://seanwilson.org

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On 4/22 JL Speranza wrote:

Native Americans, for example, possibly lacked the notion of "free" (or "slave" 
for that matter).

I am continually amazed about the sweeping statements made by educated people 
about what "Native Americans" did or did not do. Even if you restrict the term 
to those tribes that whose historical territory lay within the the boundaries 
of 
the United States, you are talking about thousands of different tribes with 
widely varying cultures, only a few of which are well enough documented to be 
able to make meaningful statements about their cultural values. Extend your 
scope to central and South America and you encompass highly stratified 
civilizations where slavery, feudalism and nested levels of autonomy were very 
much the norm. 


It is worth remembering, also, that until quite recently any western concept of 
free will applied only to adult males.  The degree of freedom and autonomy 
enjoyed by women differed much less from culture to culture and did not 
necessarily mirror the degree of freedom enjoyed by adult males of a certain 
social class.

Martha Sherwood

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