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Ecartis needs it. // apppost 4ABF2451:6288.1:jvggef From GEVANS613@xxxxxxx Sun Sep 27 04:37:37 2009 Return-Path: <GEVANS613@xxxxxxx> X-Original-To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Delivered-To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id A22CACAFC73 for <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at localhost.localdomain Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing.freelists.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id jzY2hCr+9+-e for <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imr-db01.mx.aol.com (imr-db01.mx.aol.com [205.188.91.95]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 5FCFBCAFBEA for <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (imo-ma02.mx.aol.com [64.12.78.137]) by imr-db01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n8R8bPC2007002 for <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:25 -0400 Received: from GEVANS613@xxxxxxx by imo-ma02.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id 3.c7f.3bc18029 (14501) for <wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:20 -0400 (EDT) From: GEVANS613@xxxxxxx Message-ID: <c7f.3bc18029.37f07e3f@xxxxxxx> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:37:19 EDT Subject: Re: [Wittrs] Re: Minds, Brains and What There Is To: wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1254040639" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5002 X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: GEVANS613@xxxxxxx -------------------------------1254040639 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 27/09/2009 03:14:26 GMT Daylight Time, SWMirsky@xxxxxxx writes: --- In Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cayuse" <z.z7@...> wrote: I'm not sure what you have in mind by "eliminativism". If you would specify what you mean AND it is something I think I uderstand, I will offer my thoughts, of course, for what they're worth. As I understand it, "eliminativism" is a particular thesis concerning the mind. What do you take this thesis to be? Are you after a discussion of the standard or traditional expressions of the thesis (in which case we can Google it and take what is available on wikipedia and/or the Stanford Encyclopedia of philosophy and go from there. SWM Gentlemen: I am really enjoying the privilege of eavedropping on your fascinating discussion. If I (as a life-long eliminativist) may make a brief comment on eliminativism? I would like to mention that eliminativism isn't confined to the domain of specialised neurological (Philosophy of Mind) discourse associated with Paul and Mary Churchland (Eliminative Materialism.) Eliminativism is also very much a psycho-linguistic subject of colloquy nowadays and I see it as the main tool of resistance against the spectre which is haunting philosophy - the spectre of reification - a global reification of interpersonal and intersocietal language which has haunted philosophy for millennia, but has now proliferated and become even more dangerous to human understanding and world peace in a way much more dangerous than the ghost of Marx's communism or Hitler's Nazism which haunted Europe. Sincerely, Jud Evans The Athenaeum Library of Philosophy. Private Website: (http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm) http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Reifications (like biological entozoic infections of the gut) are proto -socio-neurological enculturations and as useful fictions are not necessarily symbiotic with, nor necessarily benignly adjuvant to the welfare of their unwitting and often naive hosts. Jud Evans. Freedom in humans consists of the ability to liberate oneself from the tyranny of reificationalist imprinting. Antonio Rossin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- Sincerely, Jud Evans Private Website: (http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm) http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------- Reifications (like biological entozoic infections of the gut) are proto -socio-neurological enculturations and as useful fictions are not necessarily symbiotic with, nor necessarily benignly adjuvant to the welfare of their unwitting and often naive hosts. Jud Evans. Freedom in humans consists of the ability to liberate oneself from the tyranny of reificationalist imprinting. Antonio Rossin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- -------------------------------1254040639 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUS-ASCII" http-equiv=3DContent-Type> <META name=3DGENERATOR content=3D"MSHTML 8.00.6001.18812"></HEAD> <BODY style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR: #000000; FONT-SIZE: 10pt" id=3Dr= ole_body=20 bottomMargin=3D7 leftMargin=3D7 rightMargin=3D7 topMargin=3D7><FONT id=3Dr= ole_document=20 color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial> <DIV>In a message dated 27/09/2009 03:14:26 GMT Daylight Time, SWMirsky@ao= l.com=20 writes:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"= ><FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3D= Arial>--- In=20 Wittrs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Cayuse" <z.z7@...> wrote:<BR><BR><BR>I'm= not=20 sure what you have in mind by "eliminativism". If you would specify what= you=20 mean AND it is something I think I uderstand, I will offer my thoughts,= of=20 course, for what they're worth. As I understand it, "eliminativism" is= a=20 particular thesis concerning the mind. What do you take this thesis to= be? Are=20 you after a discussion of the standard or traditional expressions of the= =20 thesis (in which case we can Google it and take what is available on wik= ipedia=20 and/or the Stanford Encyclopedia of philosophy and go from=20 there.<BR><BR>SWM</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV>Gentlemen: <BR>I am really enjoying the privilege of eavedropping on= your=20 fascinating discussion. If I (as a life-long eliminativist) may make a bri= ef=20 comment on eliminativism? I would like to mention that eliminativism isn't= =20 confined to the domain of specialised neurological (Philosophy of Mind)=20 discourse associated with Paul and Mary Churchland (Eliminative Materialis= m.)=20 Eliminativism is also very much a psycho-linguistic subject of colloquy no= wadays=20 and I see it as the main tool of resistance against the spectre which is= =20 haunting philosophy - the spectre of reification - a global reification of= =20 interpersonal and intersocietal language which has haunted philosophy for= =20 millennia, but has now proliferated and become even more dangerous to huma= n=20 understanding and world peace in a way much more dangerous than the ghost= of=20 Marx's communism or Hitler's Nazism which haunted Europe.</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=3D0 size=3D2 face=3DArial FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"=20 PTSIZE=3D"10">Sincerely,<BR> <BR>Jud Evans</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=3D0 size=3D2 face=3DArial FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF" PTSIZE=3D"1= 0">The Athenaeum=20 Library of Philosophy.<BR> <BR>Private Website:<A=20 href=3D"http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm";>=20 </A>http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm<BR>-----------= --------------------------------------------------------------------------= --<B><BR>Reifications</B> (like=20 biological entozoic infections of the gut) are<BR>proto -socio-neurologica= l=20 enculturations and as useful fictions <BR>are not necessa= rily=20 symbiotic with, nor necessarily benignly<BR>adjuvant to the welfare= of=20 their unwitting and often naive hosts. <BR><I>Jud Evans</I>.=20 <B><BR></B><BR>Freedom in humans consists of the ability to=20 liberate<BR> oneself from the tyranny of reificationalist= =20 imprinting.<I> <BR>Antonio Rossin.=20 </I><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------------<BR> <U><BR><BR><BR><BR></DIV> <DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV><FONT lang=3D0 size=3D2 face=3DArial FAMILY=3D"SANSSERIF"=20 PTSIZE=3D"10"><BR>Sincerely,<BR> <BR>Jud Evans<BR> <BR>Private= =20 Website:<A href=3D"http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm= ">=20 </A>http://evans-experientialism.freewebspace.com/index.htm<BR>-----------= --------------------------------------------------------------------------= --<B><BR>Reifications</B> (like=20 biological entozoic infections of the gut) are<BR>proto -socio-neurologica= l=20 enculturations and as useful fictions <BR>are not necessa= rily=20 symbiotic with, nor necessarily benignly<BR>adjuvant to the welfare= of=20 their unwitting and often naive hosts. <BR><I>Jud Evans</I>.=20 <B><BR></B><BR>Freedom in humans consists of the ability to=20 liberate<BR> oneself from the tyranny of reificationalist= =20 imprinting.<I> <BR>Antonio Rossin.=20 </I><BR>------------------------------------------------------------------= -----------------------<BR> <U><BR><BR><BR><BR></U></FONT></DIV></U><= /FONT></DIV></FONT></BODY></HTML> -------------------------------1254040639-- // eompost 4ABF2451:6288.1:jvggef WEB VIEW: http://tinyurl.com/ku7ga4 TODAY: http://alturl.com/whcf 3 DAYS: http://alturl.com/d9vz 1 WEEK: http://alturl.com/yeza GOOGLE: http://groups.google.com/group/Wittrs YAHOO: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Wittrs/ FREELIST: //www.freelists.org/archive/wittrs/09-2009