Richard, I've seen this particular problem on a variety of operating systems, from VMS to DOS to NetWare to Win2K. I've often worked in manufacturing and a lot of manufacturing systems have this. The problem originates in how efficient the hashing algorithm is for the directory: It is optimized to quickly show a small number of files. I am pretty sure it won't be fast even on the local system. My NT boxes with >30K file count in one directory can take over 20 minutes just to do a CMD DIR from the server console. Scary to watch because it just stops for a few seconds every once in a while. Try this on yours and you will see. Windows explorer is highly optimized in a way that makes large numbers of files like this work very poorly. Aaron's ideas, below, can help some. Redesigning the storage mechanism is the only permanent solution. Using CMD batch commands to manipulate the files is the only practical method. Aaron Dokey <adokey@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent by: cc: windows2000-bounce@fre Subject: [windows2000] Re: large number of files in folder, slow lan elists.org acces s No Phone Info Available 10/08/2002 07:22 AM Please respond to windows2000 Richard, I once had a problem similar to this, but in my situation it would bring the file server to it's knees. We had a large number of files, and when a client would run a script against those files it would max out the CPU on the file server and make it unresponsive to network requests. There was a MS Q article with some registry tweaks that I used, but I cannot remember if this fully solved the problem or not. A couple of weeks later I moved all the file/print services to a Win2k cluster, which was planned prior to this event. It's not much help, but search the MS knowledge base there is something out there. -Aaron ----------------------- Aaron Dokey - MIS Reid Tool Supply 2265 Black Creek Rd. Muskegon, MI 49444 (231) 777-3951 (231) 767-3772 (Direct) ----------------------- -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hopper [mailto:Richard.Hopper@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:51 AM To: 'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [windows2000] large number of files in folder, slow lan access Hi, I have a NT4 server which has a few folders with a fairly large number of files. 4000, or 12000 say. Most of the files are fairly small < 16K. Browsing through these folders is painfully slow. The server is not heavily loaded by any means. Is there anything I can do to improve this. The server is a 333Mhz PII with 256meg of ram. with over 180 megs of ram available. Cheers Richard <font size=1 face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif' color=000000>Any opinions expressed in this email are those of the individual and not necessarily the Company. This email and any files transmitted with it, including replies and forwarded copies (which may contain alterations) subsequently transmitted from the Company, are confidential and solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). It may contain material protected by attorney-client privilege. If you are not the intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering to the intended recipient, be advised that you have received this email in error and that any use is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error please notify the Network Administrator by telephone on +44 (0)1536 207000 or via email to postmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxx including a copy of this message. Please then delete this email and destroy any copies of it.</font> ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm