We're like that here too. Over the years our server rooms has somehow transformed into a cornucopia of obsolete, but working, hardware repository - you never know when you're going to need an old AT-type PSU, or the odd 2GB hd or whatever Mac or first-generation pentium... I've used some of the older P1/133 for building firewall appliances with mainly Smoothwall softs. We also have old P3/500-boxes running NT4 and multimillion-SEK analytical instruments in mission-critial setups... So I know exactly whereof you speaketh. 8-) Besides, the best recycling method is to actually reuse old hardware, not tossing it in the garbage. Unless they're irreparable broken, in which case you can scavenge still working parts. 8-) How do you practically convert a useless old win9x-box to a TS-client/surfstation? Any particular procedure? _____ From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Davey Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 2:21 PM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: MS06-013 and Win 98 "I'd ignore win9x altogether unless is mission critical in some way." of course it is.... it's cheap ( like our users ) :-) It's a shame as these old boxes are really useful as TS clients and the odd bit of personal surfing. No need to repair them . once they die then they get chucked into the recycling pile. I don't really want to give the users the ability to surf via the TS box. I'll ghost a couple of images with flash, adobe etc. already installed ----- Original Message ----- From: Sorin <mailto:sorin.srbu@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Srbu To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: [windows2000] Re: MS06-013 and Win 98 Win9x (and most of NT4) has been pretty dead over here for the last six to seven years. The cost to fix the problems on win9x greatly exceeds the cost to just reformat and install a newer OS (if hardware supports it). I'd ignore win9x altogether, unless is mission critical in some way.