Another benefit is: in Mark's example he has 3 Citrix servers and the terminals do not have hard drives. When Mark wants to update the terminals, he simply installs the new software on his 3 servers and all terminals are updated. So if he has 120 terminals and the upgrade requires an hour each, he spends 3 hours instead of 120 hours. Jim Kenzig also moderates an EXCELLENT list for thin client computing ( what Citrix does ). thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Hope this helps Jeff Jesus Loves You -----Original Message----- From: Mark Edwards [mailto:medwards@xxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:33 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Citrix We just converted our bank to use Citrix, and plan to roll-out our first branches utilizing it. The benefit being that each station costs us around $300, the thin clients themselves have no floppy, cd or hardrives (just RAM) (so it helps keep us secure from outside viruses and such), the citrix management console helps me to shadow users when they are having difficulties and show them how to fix common problems. I can work from home and have the exact same desktop as I do from work. 16-bit applications run very poorly on citrix and must be avoided to obtain the best performance. With our core banking apps we ran into difficulties just because it's a new technology and a few of our vendors have no idea what citrix is or how to get there apps running on it. We did however find ways to eventually get them running, and are just beginning to see the fruit of our efforts. When its time to do updates we do the update to one Citrix server and disable logins to that particular server. We have 3 citrix servers in our "farm", so we can essentially test on one, and still load-balance and have the redundancy of the other two. The thins we purchased from Compaq..they have a couple usb ports, 128MB Ram, serial port, printer port (you can still have local printers, and if necessary external dvd players, etc..) It's been a learning experience for sure, but I think we will be happy with the results in the end. -Mark -----Original Message----- From: Eduardo Freitas [mailto:eduardofreitas@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 9:17 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Citrix I hear everyone here talking about citrix. I never used any of their products nor have any idea what/how good they are... Any opinions/ideas/suggestions on it? Sorry for my ignorance! But its better to ask then keep quiet! ; P Regards, Eduardo Herrmann de Freitas ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - RTO Software / TScale What's keeping you from getting more from your terminal servers? Did you know, in most cases, CPU Utilization IS NOT the single biggest constraint to scaling up?! Get this free white paper to understand the real constraints & how to overcome them. SAVE MONEY by scaling-up rather than buying more servers. http://www.rtosoft.com/Enter.asp?ID=147 ********************************************************** To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm