Hi susan I have started a new thread because it really is pointless continuing on the thread you are using as it is not at all practicable for sighted or partially sighted people. I do not understand your question to me about other lists, I only asked if you had intended to send to Birt directly as you addressed him at the beginning of the e-mail. I do not expect any of your e-mails to go to other lists unless you deliberately send them to other lists. Eleanor