Ah I wondered that - so the one with swipe presumably lets you dictate text where you would have otherwise typed it - does that work better than Google voice typing? And if I had the full Dragon Assistant, does it also do what dragon with swipe does - ie would there be any point in having the swipe keyboard as well (if I intended to dictate instead of typing)?
Perhaps I should just ask, if I wanted to dictate as much as possible - commands to the phone, details on web forms, emails etc, what is the best solution(s) to look at?
On 13/06/2014 11:04 AM, gary melconian wrote:
NO it’s a separate . but ther is one with the swipe. But the one that is a separate acts more like Google now and is more of a replacement . The swipe keyboar with dragon does not have the full capability. I have both on my nexus 7 2012 wifi tablet. If I can be of any help let me know. -----Original Message----- From: vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2014 4:41 PM To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vi-android] Re: Using "OK Google" Thanks Gary, I'll check them out! Is Dragon Assistant the one integrated with Swype keyboard or is it separate (but related?). Also what's the easiest way of activating any of these? The iPhone's approach of holding down the home key is quite simple, swiping up from the home key on a Nexus is similar, but on a non-nexus Android there doesn't seem to be a good quick and easy way to access these things? Saying "OK Google" only works on one of the Moto X phones I vaguely recall, otherwise it works once you're already in Google search (and it is quite handy when you are in there as you don't need to touch the device again to ask a new question). The best thing I can think of currently is to use a full screen widget (or a 1x1 screen layout in the latest version of Big Launcher) and have Google Search icon take up the full screen (I downloaded a voice search widget awhile ago but I think the preinstalled Google search icon will do the same thing now). Regards Quentin. On 13/06/2014 9:26 AM, gary melconian wrote:Yes take a look at Utter and dragon assistant. They do a better job then ok Google . I have been beta testing utter and the other list suggested dragon. I will notgo back to the list as I find its dto hosttle to be able to debate some issues in regards to matters. -----Original Message----- From: vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 11:12 PM To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [vi-android] Using "OK Google" Hi everyone, I finally set aside some time to have a play with "OK Google", and I must admit, I'm a bit disappointed. I've put my thoughts below and I'd be interested in other's experiences. I tried Google Now awhile ago on my Galaxy Nexus and found it would only give me the weather each morning, and randomly, the driving time to work (which is irrelevant as I don't drive to work). Today I tried OK Google, I setup a widget on my home screen to Google Search which seemed to go straight into it and I could get it to do some basic things from the list at: http://www.androidpit.com/how-to-use-ok-google-voice-commands I think some of them like sports scores are only for the US (it couldn't tell me anything about Aussie Rules, though it did offer me the AFL webpage as the first result). I tried emailing myself, but even though I have two entries in my address book, it couldn't find either of them (even though it spelt my name correctly). I could email my wife, though I couldn't add a subject, only the body of the message and when I agreed to send it, the message was opened in Aqua Mail with the focus in the subject ready for me to write that and then send it manually. I could dial contacts and numbers, and I was impressed when I told it to ring work, and it found two entries and asked me which one and I replied "the first one" and it rang it. I wasn't expecting that, but I would have expected when I dictated a number that it should have been able to figure out what the word "double" meant, as in "dial 1, 2, double 3, 4", it instead did a google search for that... I could get the weather and do arithmatic and conversions and some of the easter eggs worked (do a barrel roll, "when am I" and "who are you" were cute, how much wood can a woodchuck chuck would have been more entertaining if it had read the entire answer and overall I must confess, Siri is a lot cleverer with it's easter eggs). I was disappointed that I couldn't open apps (it generally just did a web search, occasionally it crashed). I was surprised I couldn't even ask it where am I (it gave me a map, but refused to offer an address, though it could give me directions from my 'current location' when I gave it a location to go to it understood. I found it quite inconsistent in that it would give me voice answers / feedback on some things, but not others. I asked it to take a photo and it did open my camera, but left it to me to actually take my shot - I could see in an emergency wanting to to say "take a photo" or even "record video" and wanting it to just do it. I would say I was impressed with how accurately it did understand me most of the time, even when I talked quite quickly, I was just disappointed how a search feature designed by the world's most sucessfull search engine company, was really, fairly limited in what it could actually do with the information I gave it. EG, I would have liked to have fully written an email, and when I tried to email a contact who didn't have an email address, it should have walked me through adding an email address, not just offering me the (correct) contact card to tap on physically and edit manually. I would have liked to have been able to tell it to open apps, read my notifications, lock the screen, and basically tell me more. I've used Siri and as a comparison, I can do most of the things Google offered, many the same, some better, some worse. I do like being able to say "ok google" once I'm in it to start a new query, whereas on the iPhone you have to tap the microphone, though Siri is easier to get into as you can just hold down the home key (On a nexus I think you can swipe up from the home key? My Nexus is playing up at the moment so I can't test it). For the most part, I just find it easier and quicker to do what I need manually, but I'll keep an eye on it. How do others find it? Do others use OK Google / Google now / voice dictation / anything similar? Regards Quentin. To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. 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