hello, I'm also looking at a phone replacement. I'm also thinking of the two phones mentioned previously, the Moto X or the Nexus 5. To those I'll add the Lg G2 and I'd also appreciate any experiences with any of these phones. Thanks. Dave. On 1/24/14, michael's mail boxl <michaelandjeanie@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I only had mine nexus 7 for aboutt 4 months and the sound out speeker is > good but head phones to soft to hear if a TV is going in the room.And I got > > the 2012 model cheap from Harvynormand. > Cheers. > > From: Christopher gilland > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:34 PM > To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [vi-android] Re: Motorola X Review > > I never had an issue with earphones on the Nexus 7 2013 tablet, as I have > one of those too, however on its internal speaker, it was a bit quiet for > my, and a lot of other's likings. I'm not saying it's inaudible, it > definitely is, it's just way quieter than I would have expected it to be. > > Chris. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: michael's mail boxl > To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 6:58 PM > Subject: [vi-android] Re: Motorola X Review > > Actually Chris the problem with the Nexus 7 tablets has been fixed I could > > not use mine on ear plugs. > But now its nice and loud. > I like the sound of your phone. > Cheers Michael. > > From: Christopher gilland > Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 6:38 AM > To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [vi-android] Motorola X Review > > First of all, if you are on a screen reader that will let you do it, you > can navigate this e-mail message heading by heading to jump to the different > > sections that I cover. > > Introduction > > Though I won't bore you all with the details specifically, I just recently > > received a white 16GB Motorola X Android handset through AT&T wireless. > I've only had the phone now for about 24 hours, so keep in mind, this review > > is quite fresh. By that I just mean, I'm basing all these things only on a > > day's worth of use, so if something appears inaccurate, give me a break, I'm > > just starting to use the phone, so things could change as I make more > discoveries along the way. Disclaimer out of the way, let's get started. > And oh, by the way, if anyone wants to put this review on their blog, go for > > it! Just be sure you credit me as the author. > > Look and Feel > > Once I received the phone, I noticed that the box appeared to be taped > shut. Not that this really is an issue, but when I say taped shut, I mean > this sucker was taped! I don't feel I have the motor skills in my hands to > > be able to slit the tape with a knife or scissors. Thus, I just kind a went > > at it little by little with my fingernails. It took quite some effort, but > > eventually, I managed to get it opened. It may not actually have been taped > > shut as I suspect, but boy did it feel like it was! > > Once I got the box opened, I noticed that on the front of the phone, not > just on the screen, but on about 95% of the front of the phone, there was a > > plastic cellophane covering that I had to break and tear off the screen to > expose it. This could of just been due to me hardly having any nails, but I > > couldn't for the life of me get the thing off. Finally when I did, it was > all bubbled up, and wrinkled. It looked absolutely disgusting! Not that it > > was a big deal, seeing it was coming off anyway, but had that been an actual > > screen protector, I would a been screwed. > > Once I held the actual pone in my hand completely opened and ready to go, > > I noticed something right up front. The phone is slightly wider than an > IPhone going horizontally from the left side to the right side of the phone. > > It's not enough to be a problem though. the IPhone has a 4 inch screen. > This handset is a 4.7 inch screen, so it's just barely below an inch bigger. > > So, we're not talking a 7 inch Note here. This thing's definitely! not a > phablet! > > I also noticed that the volume and power/lock keys were over on the right > > side of the device. I sort of like this, but it can ge a bit annoying if > the phone is in my pocket, and I'm trying to dig my hand in my pants to lock > > the screen or to reject a phone call etc. What tends to happen is, I'll go > > to reach for the lock button, and in the process I'll bump the screen with > my finger, and sometimes do really undesired things. No, I've not managed > yet to call 9 1 1, god forbid. LOL! Just kidding. I'm sure my day's a > cummin though. LOL! The other reason I don't like it is, I tend to have a > > very heavy, and believe me, I do mean heavy! touch/grip. With this said, > sometimes when I'm holding the phone, I'll grip it a little two high up on > the side edges, and thus will wind up mashing the volume buttons without > meaning to. I don't normally do it to the point where it gets turned down > all the way, as usually I realize I'm doing it, then lighten up on my grip > before it's too late. This problem is rare, and for most people, I don't > perceive it as being much of an issue, so don't let that turn you off. My > guess is, it's probably just the nature of how I hold the phone in my left > hand in combination with how I grip the thing with my fingers. > > Unlike the IPhone, this phone isn't made out of metal/glass. I mean, ok, > > yeah, the screen obviously is glass, duh, but, I'm saying, the rest of the > phone is not. Actually, now that I feel it as I'm writing, the edges might > > be metal, but I don't think so. I don't have quite enough vision to really > > fully tell. Sorry about that. What I, can! tell you though is, the back of > > the phone is a real hard very nice, and very heavy duty polly-carbon > plastic. If you ever have seen the older white mac books, not the aluminum > > pro's, but I'm talking about just the plain standard mac books, then you'll > > know exactly what I'm talking about. It's basically the same type glossy > material as those units. Granted, you'd think the smooth glossiness would > make the phone harder to grip, but I'm actually very impressed. It really > doesn't, believe it or not. The other real nice thing is, the back of the > IPhone is totally flat. There's no angle in the thing. this kind a makes > the IPhone feel very deck of cardish. I dono... some may like that, but me > > personally, I found it a bit annoying. the Moto X on the other hand is > ever? ever! so slightly convexed. by this, more directly put, what I mean > is, it's kind of jutted out a little ways. It's very suttle, but it's just > > enough to tactally be able to tell. I! love this, as it makes it way way > easier for me to hold up to my ear. Normally, the way I hold a phone of any > > kind is I wrap my thumb on thn one side of the phone and let my middle and > ring finger gently grasp the other side of the phone. Then I let my pinky > do nothing. It's totally out of the way, not even in contact at all with > the phone. then my index finger is raised and in the dead back center of > the handset acting as a rest/anker to kind of guide the phone to say up to > my ear. With this said, that convexed curve in the back of the phone feels > > really really nice against my index finger. It kind of gives me a little > resistance on that finger. That probably doesn't make sense, but I don't > know how to explain it. Trust me though, it really does feel very very > hnice. > > When I tried pluggin earphones into the phone, they made a very definite > snap/click which was both felt and heard very very easily. The USB cord was > > even cooler! One side of the end of the cord that goes into the phone is a > > little bit lipped. It's a little bit concaved, whereas the other side is > completely flat. the side that is a little concaved needs to be faced up > toward the ceiling when you plug the cord in. Again, it's suttle, but it's > > definitely also very noticeable. I also really like the fact that it takes > > quite an intentional pull in order to remove the cord from the phone. It's > > pretty snugged, so you don't really have to worry about it falling out. > > The sound quality and volume of this phone when turned up all the way is > amazing! Even with my hearing loss, which is quite profound in some ways, > this phone is incredible! Even all the way up, it doesn't distort in the > least! That was impressive! I could a sworn it would clip really really > badly all the way up, but unlike the IPhone, especially the 5S, and the 5C, > > it doesn't distort at all. I even put a TTS engine which has a really > really loud voice, naturally, on the device, and though it was so loud that > > it was almost earsplitting, it wasn't distorted at all. Don't get me wrong, > > all the way up isn't deafening, nor earshatterring, but it is extremely > loud. believe you me, you'll hear it! for those with the Nexus 7 tablets, > > either the 2012, or the 2013 models who've complained that the volume was > really soft even all the way up, you won't have this issue with the Moto X, > > I promise! The Moto X goes about 3 and a half to 4 times louder than the > Nexus 7 tablets. It is amazing! that's no exageration either on the amount > > calculation! I'm being dead seriously literal! You gotta hear it for > yourself to appreciate it, but it's really good! And, not only this, but > it's in full stereo! It's not even mono! In fact, I can't prove this, but > > somewhere, I read, though don't quote me on this, it's actually > quadrophonic! I hear there are speakers in all 4 quadrant corners of the > device. Again, that may not be true. I'm not totally sure. I'm only going > > there by what I've read online. > > Vibration Motor > > One thing I also noticed was that the vibration motor in the Moto X is > wonderful! I'm not much of a fan of vibration, as I feel it normally feels > > too mooshy and just over all, kind of, ehh, to me. I dono, I can't explain > > it. I can't put my finger on it exactly, but something about vibration > normally just gets on my nerves. I just don't like the buzzing effect in my > > hand. But then, I've never liked things buzzing in my hand. Creepy? > Crawly? Firry? scratchy? LOL! Just kidding. No seriously, I just don't > really care for it. This said, I found the vibration on the moto X is > actually, somewhat tolerable! I dono, it just seems to feel more definite. > > I know, I'm just weird like that. > > The back facing camera > > You know... I've not had a chance yet to play any with the camera, front, > > or! back facing, so I really can't vouch for the quality quite yet, but I > know the rear camera is 10 meggapixils, which should mean that it would be > very very good. It would be interesting with something like Google Goggles, > > or the like, to see what it does, if anything. I've never had much luck > with those apps on any Android device, so I can't really say. My milage may > > vary, and so may your's. > > The screen digitizer > > Unlike my Nexus 7 tablet, where sometimes gestures don't quite work, I've > > found that the digitizer in the Moto X doesn't seem to have this issue at > all. All my gestures are seeming to register just fine. Now, this said, I > > did remap the up then right gesture for the local context menu, as for some > > weird reason, not only did this gesture not work out of the box on my Nexus > > 7, it's not working either on my Moto X. This may be a Talkback bug, as > I've heard of some who can consistently get it to work without changing it, > > but I've heard of others like myself who try as they may, can't get it to > work either. So, yeah, YMMV. Aside this though, it seems to work > perfectly. > > Talkback's Two Circular context Menus > > I have found that the context menus in Talkback work a little bit better > on my Nexus tab than on my Moto X. I don't think this is an issue of the > phone or of Talkback though. It's probably just that on the phone, you have > > less screen real estate to work with than on the tablet, thus, the options > going around the circle are smaller, and are a bit more smished closer > together, thus, making it slightly harder to slide around and find the > option you need. Being they're smaller, it also thus means that the circle > > is a bit more sensitive. The slightest little movement, and you'll move > from one option to another. I'm finding that I gotta be really careful when > > I lift my finger, as if I'm not, I'll wind up lifting up on the wrong > option.I kind a wish they'd make that screen where you gotta double tap to > activate the option. I see their logic though of why they didn't do that. > Why add more unnecessary gestures? > > The phone dialer > > I like the phone dialer a lot, however, one thing that is really taking me > > some getting used to is, on the keypad screen before you're in an active > call, the numbers like, 1, 2, 3, are horizontally fine, however, going 1, 4, > > 7, star, or 2, 5, 8, 0: in other words, going virtically, are very very > close together. They're smished really tightly on the screen. And, the > fact that to dial, you basically do just like you do with your keyboard. > You touch type the numbers. So in other words, you slide your finger to the > > number of your choice, then you lift your finger, and the number is pressed. > > I've found myself fat fingerring and dialing incorrectly quite often. Yeah, > > there's google Now, where I could voice dial, and I do use that sometimes, > but I don't necessarily wanna use that as a crutch. You know what I mean? > It's a tool/aide, not a servant, if you will. LOL! OK phone, go dial for > me, bee och? LOL! Just kidding! I do! like that under > settings>accessibility, I have the ability of making the lock/power side > button be my hang up key. That is awesome! > > Typing on the beast > > Watch it! this is the only negative thing I'm probably gonna say. Typing > > on this thing is absolutely disgusting! I don't just dislike it, I flat out > > hate it! Even with the Nuance Google Swipe keyboard, it's terrible in my > opinion! I find that the placement of the keys, regardless the keyboard of > > choice, makes it extremely! difficult to type. Now, I have fairly big > hands, and decently big fingers, plus remember, in all fairness, I have mild > > cerebral pausy in both my hands, which causes my hands both to trimmer a > bit. for this reason, it makes it more so difficult, as the ever ever! > ever! so slightest bit of movement will result in either me sliding off the > > key I need, or will make me type the wrong character, or sometimes, at > worst, both. I also don't like where they put the delete key. Both on the > > default google keyboard as well as on the Swype keyboard, it's near the > bottom right side of the keyboard, instead of like on my tablet, where it's > > on the top most row of keys, on the far far righthand side. I know why they > > didn't put it there though. There would have been no room for it. the p, > l, and delete keys on the far right side, as well as the q, a, and shift > keys are so damn flushed, (parden my language,) with the edge rims of the > phone that you literally almost have to use the sides of your finger tips to > > hit the letters. I mean, when I say they are flushed with the edge, I mean > > they are fee lushed! Frankly, it's enough to almost make me scream! I want > > to think positive, that I'll eventually get used to typing on this thing, > but it's not looking very promising at the moment, I'll confess. I hope > that I wind up eating crow, and am wrong in the long run. > > Proximity sinsor > > What can I say about this thing... Simply, put, amazing! Oh my god! This > > thing is simply gorgeous! the fact that I can wave my hand in front of the > > thing to silence speech? Oh man! that is nice! Keep in mind, for a lot of > > you, you're probably looking at me going, well, yeah? what's so cool about > > that! You've been able to do that since ancient of days! No? Not really! > > Keep in mind, I have a tablet. Tablets don't have proximity sinsors, so, I > > was left out in the cold as far as that went. Back in the days, I had an > Android 2.2 phone, but that thing wouldn't do that natively with the sensor, > > and with the app to make it do it, it wasn't always very consistently > reliable, so for most, this is old news, but for me, this is absolutely > wonderful! > > Touchless Gestures > > You know... I see everyone's argument that you never know what audio is > being transmitted and to where with this feature enabled. I have this > concern too, bigtime. this is why I normally don't have it turned on. > However, that being said, there is something nice about being able to wake > up in the morning, not even yet roll out of bed, and just say: OK google > now! Do I have voicemail? OK google Now! What time is it? OK google now! > > Do I have any missed calls? OK google now: turn on my ringer. OK google > Now! turn off my alarm. OK google now: Text mom: Let me get dressed, and > > I'll be downstairs for breakfast in just a few minutes. Etc. All of this, > > not even once touching my phone physically. I also like that google has > this feature disabled by default, and you always can opt out of using it at > > any time if you so choose, and doing so will not cause you down the road to > > have to retrain it, if you change your mind. > > Data usage > > This phone not only can do 3G/4G, but if you have coverage for it, it'll > also do LTE, which is excellent! > > Conclusion > > I think that just about covers it. So over all, would I recommend this > phone? Heck yeah! Darn straight I would! This phone is absolutely > awesome! It comes with KitKat out of the box, no modding or rooting needed. > > If, you happen to get an older Moto X handset that has Jellybean on it after > > unboxing, though that now adays is unlikely, don't worry. There is indeed > an over the air update, regardless your carrier in most cases, which will > let you push it to KitKat 4.4. > > Chris. > To post to the list, simply send email to vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx. To unsubscribe from the list send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field (new users, use 'subscribe' to subscribe) To receive the list as a digest, send an email to vi-android-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'set vi-android digest' in the subject (to go back to receiving every message use 'unset vi-android digest' in the subject).