[vi-android] Re: Latest mobile phones: a fiery business

  • From: Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2016 22:12:56 +1100

Today I saw a very old Samsung, the person I was with told me proudly that she'd owned it now for 13 years! That's a good age for a phone.

I looked at the phone and soon understood why the owner wouldn't let go of it over her dead body, lovely nice chunky styling - yep quite a bit thicker than today's cardboard cutouts. -

I put the phone in my pocket and felt something, the phone, I knew it was there and that's comforting in itself.

The owner of the phone was more concerned about the battery of same, could she easily get a replacement? Well that's something you don't hear much about these days, replacement batteries for phones.

I'm dead sure about one thing though, - unless the phone owner does something absolutely stupid - unlikely that she's had the phone for 13 years - the battery won't catch fire and no, the owner doesn't seem too worried about headphones though she does use an earpiece when driving so she can keep her hands on the wheel, can't ask for much more than that in the age of responsible driving on our roads I guess.

The only real pity about all this is that Jackie will wake up one day to find that her phone won't make or receive calls.



On 22/10/2016 8:46 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Oh it was more that there was such a big kerfuffle over the removal of
the headphone jack.  To be honest, I wouldn't be happy about it
either.  My point was more that I'm sure if the iPhone, for instance,
had kept the headphone jack, but made the phone 2cm thick, with the
tradeoff being four times the battery life, I think there would have
been less angst over it.  And hey, at least with Android, if one
company does that, and you're not happy with the thickness, there are
plenty of other phones around that are thinner/

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On 22 October 2016 at 20:42, Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I take your points but - on the subject of the headphones jack - I'm not
entirely sure I'd agree with you there.

If the headphone jack was the make and break all of phones then perhaps you
could explain why it is that Apple have sold more iPhone 7 devices than any
other iPhone in history?

I'm not taking sides here as a headphone jack - or lack thereof - is the
least of my concerns when purchasing a phone, i'm just wondering aloud with
mouth agape.

I don't know why it is but Apple have a habit of removing things and that
pays off, take a look at their computers.

First they removed the floppy drive, remember them?

Recently Apple removed the internal CD Rom drive, I think you all remember
those.




On 22/10/2016 8:38 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
To be honest, if Samsung, or whoever, came out with a phone that was
200mm thick but had a battery that lasted, maybe not a week but 3 - 4
days perhaps - and wasn't prone to catching fire, people would flock
to it.  Talk up the battery life, don't mention the thickness in the
marketing.  I'm sure a lot more people would be happy with a phone
that sacrificed thinness than a phone that sacrificed a headphone
jack... for instance ;)

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On 22 October 2016 at 00:33, Jude DaShiell <jdashiel@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
In the case of fondlebrick makers, the electronics departments are going
to
have to get responsible enough to tell the marketing departments no we
are
not producing a phone model any thinner than this since models thinner
than
this turn into fire bombs and then legal department in this company has a
problem with law suits.  Marketing is just going to have to learn to
respect
those limits and the first fondlebrick maker that does this very likely
in
time after the other companies make some more fire bombs that impact
their
bottom lines will come out on top of the industry.

On Fri, 21 Oct 2016, Dane Trethowan wrote:

Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 01:11:27
From: Dane Trethowan <grtdane@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Reply-To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-android] Re: Latest mobile phones: a fiery business

Its all about giving the public what they want ain?t it <smile>.


On 21 Oct. 2016, at 4:08 pm, Quentin Christensen
<quentin.christensen@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

See!  As soon as one company do it, the others all have to follow
suit... I'd ask if one company jumped off a cliff, would the others
follow... I guess we know the answer!

Seriously though, one report I read about the Note 7 issue,
essentially said that it's an inherent risk with Lithium Ion batteries
as we approach the limits of just how much power you push through them
and how quickly - the more we ask our phones to do and the thinner
they try to make the batteries - without any great leaps forward in
mobile battery technology, the more likely we are to see such
problems.

I have to say, this obsession with phone manufacturers trying to make
their phones ever thinner is, I think, half the problem - I mean, I'd
be just as happy with my phone if it was twice the thickness it is,
but didn't risk catching fire and the battery lasted two days rather
than one.  To be honest, it would probably be easier to hold...

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On 21 October 2016 at 15:53, g melconian <gmelconian619@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Yes I told you the I phone also have the ame fire caue a well. But no
one ws listening.

-----Original Message-----
From: vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vi-android-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 8:31 PM
To: vi-android@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vi-android] Latest mobile phones: a fiery business

I post the below for public interest.
This is very worrying.

I've just been watching Yesterday's 6 PM TV news -at 2 AM this morning
-.

The news showed footage and gave details of an iPhone 7 catching fire
in
the same way that the Samsung Note7 has been doing.

Thankfully - when the phone caught fire - it was in a car and the
owner
was out completing other business.

When he got back to his car he found the cars inside totally
destroyed.

So the question, what the hell's going on? Are Apple getting their
internal batteries from the same supplier as Samsung? - For the record
Samsung used Panasonic batteries in their Note7. -


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