[Umpqua Birds] Re: Cooper's Hawk (Finally)
- From: James Billstine <billstinj@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: umpquabirds@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 07:37:31 -0700
So what I thought what was a Cooper's Hawk must go unidentified. I confused
the field marks of Sharp-Shinned and Cooper's hawk. Cooper's Hawk have a
head that DOES extend beyond the wings, and Cooper's Hawk doesn't. Also the
Square tail/rounded tail isn't as reliable a field mark when they are
gliding. I knew it was an accipter, so that's a start! so I'll keep
checking the thermals for more.
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Matthew G Hunter <matthewghunter@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> Ha ha ha... Yes, I know how it feels. Accipiters can be hard. Even when
> you get things straight in your head, sometimes it is hard to decide which
> it is (straight/rounded, head extended or not, quick or slow wingbeats,
> etc., etc.). Some are pretty clear. Some just go unidentified. :-)
> Anyway, it's just the process of learning stuff--you're a teacher, I'm sure
> you understand. :-) You can help others too by sharing what you have
> learned from your mistake.
>
> Matt
>
> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 5:27 PM, James Billstine <billstinj@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Whoops. Tail tip of soaring sharp shinned appears rounded. I thought it
>> was the same as perched. I quit.
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Matthew G Hunter <
>> matthewghunter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jimmy. Just replying to you. You mentioned the head did not extend
>>> beyond (the front of) the wings. That is a characteristic of Sharp-shinned,
>>> with Cooper's head protruding out in front of wings. Wondering if that is
>>> what you meant, or ... ?
>>>
>>> Glad to hear about your car!
>>>
>>> Matt
>>> On Sep 29, 2014 7:59 AM, "James Billstine" <billstinj@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yesterday I noticed a smaller raptor climbing a thermal along with some
>>>> turkey vultures above my house. A quick check with my bins showed the
>>>> broad, rounded wings of an accipter. The head did not extend beyond the
>>>> wings, and the tail was rounded. It also flapped slowly, with long glides
>>>> in between. (Even though it was in a thermal.)
>>>>
>>>> I have been keeping my eyes open for accipters since I moved to Douglas
>>>> county. This is the first I have seen.
>>>>
>>>> PS my car will be fixed toward the end of this week.
>>>>
>>>> Jimmy
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
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