HI Folks, Been out camping... For Bonnie and anyone else interested in identifying, learning about, and understanding Calypte hummingbirds (Calypte is the genus of Anna's and Costa's hummingbirds), at the end of this email I have pasted some replies from others on these photos: http://www.jbranchmurraygreys.com/00r13bird/08costas1.html http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewghunter/sets/72157634345525563/ And, right up front, I should tell you, the bird I photographed sang the distinctive grating/spitting Anna's song. Therefore, while it could be a hybrid, it is not a Costa's Hummingbird. Also, The journal article (Wells, Shirley; Richard A. Bradley; and Luis F. Baptista. 1978. Hybridization in Calypte Hummingbirds.The Auk Vol. 95, No. 3 (Jul., 1978), pp. 537-549) mentions that of the purported hybrids they measured which sang, all sang the Anna's song. My conclusions from this experience are: 1) I have a lot to learn about these hummingbirds: what they look like normally and can look like, when/how they molt, etc. 2) Bonnie's photos (taken on sunny day) look more like Costa's than my photos do (taken on cloudy day), but even hers show qualities of both species. 3) Field guides are poor on separating these species, except for individuals at either extreme. 4) Field guides have not prepared us for the high rate of hybridization of Anna's with other species (there are journal articles describing hybridization with other species as well). 5) More personal field study of these hummingbirds will help me a lot. Want to make a contribution to the field of ornithology? Study, photograph, and/or sketch/draw/paint the Anna's Hummingbirds at your feeder, noting time, date, anything else, and then share with others. Have fun and look closely at those hummingbirds! All the Best, Matt Hunter Melrose, OR From Paul Sullivan: You didn't mention what I look for to distinguish Anna's from Costa's Hummingbird. Crown and gorget color can change with lighting. Gorget corner shape can change with posture of the bird. I'm not sure about wing vs. tail length. What I look for is the front of the bird. Anna's have a complete gray-green front. Costa's have a white necktie down the middle of the breast, or else their vest is unbuttoned and you see the white shirt. Based on this criteria, I'd call your bird an Anna's. My two cents... (you get what you pay for...) From Larry McQueen: Interesting bird that on first impression of first photos appears as a hybrid Anna's/Costa's. For one thing, Sibley is not illustrating any male Anna's I have seen! They do have an ear patch separated from the crown, and the crown is not nearly so extensive as illustrated. I am not so sure about Costa's concerning this detail. Many aspects of this bird look more like Anna's, and the gorget is more like Costa's in shape and color. Anna's is darker below than Costa's, and these photos look too dark for Costa's. There should be more white around the gorget and breast in Costa's than this bird has. The bill also looks like Anna's. Your photos look normal for Anna's, but if the bird is actually smaller than other male Anna's as perceived, then I would suspect a hybrid. However, we all know how subjective is the perception of size. From Dave Irons: My first reaction to the homeowner's photos was like Larry's (Anna's X Costa's). After looking at Matt's photos (presuming it's the same bird), I'm not so sure. The purplish/violet hues in the gorget (apparent in the homeowner's images) are not a good fit for a pure Anna's in my opinion, but the coloration of the underparts (dingy with little white) better fits Anna's. The gorget shape does seem to suggest Costa's, as Larry points out. It's important to remember that the intensity and color of iridescence is extremely plastic and highly dependent on feather wear. and While doing some research on hummer hybridization a few years back I found one reference that described Anna's Hummingbirds as "promiscuous," pointing out that they have been known to hybridize with virtually all of the species with shared breeding ranges. From Lars Norgren: A thread on this subject a few years ago revealed that hybridization between Anna's and Costa's is unusually common. Some graduate student studying the two in southern California found something like 30% hybrids. That is the heart of both species' range. Oregon is clearly at the fringe of Costa's occurrence, and then there are the back-crosses, as opposed to "pure" hybrids. I suspect birds like the one under discussion will become a lot more frequent here. I consider myself a total novice on the whole hummingbird family. Dave and Larry have written exactly what I was tempted to opine last night. From David Fix: This bird looks to me like an Anna's Hummingbird. Perhaps, as was postulated for the bird Roberson addresses, it is a hybrid or backcross with Costa's, but I see nothing that is not typical of Anna's. Maybe if someone were to look at or try to measure niceties of the wing and tail relationship there might be a case made for some hanky panky. Just looking at the way the bird appears, I don't see anything out of the normal range for Anna's. The gorget, for example, looks spot-on in shape. But hummingbirds are a group with which I have little expertise. From Elva Paulson: I don't pretend to be an expert on hummers .... but looking at the photos taken by Bonnie and Matt ... and looking at several published photos, I lean towards calling this an Anna's. I don't think the 'tails' on the side of his gorget are long enough to be a Costa's and I think the lower edge in the front section of his gorget is too even to be a Calliope. I photoed some Ann'a last winter in my yard ... the changing colors of the gorget were awesome! I don't know if my photos will help, but they can be seen on my blog. Be sure to scroll through to the last two photos: http://elvafieldnotes.blogspot.com/2013/02/winter-hummers.html