[uebc2] zsd701: Chairman's Report on Status of the Meeting
- From: Joe Sullivan <joe@xxxxxxxxxx>
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- Date: Tue, 01 Jul 2003 15:46:38 -0400
To: Members and Observers of UEBC Committee 2
From: Joe Sullivan
Subject: zsd701: Chairman's Report on Status of the Meeting
Date: July 1, 2003
MOTIONS DECIDED SINCE LAST REPORT
The second by WP in message of 2003-6-4 (wpd6042), to require the
terminator form that includes dot 3 root for all typeforms, even if
followed by space. Seconded: JS. Voting deadline: June 28. Votes: in favor:
WP, SP; against: none.
ACTIVE MOTIONS
None.
MOTIONS SECONDED, IN SUSPENSE
None.
MOTIONS MADE, NOT YET SECONDED
None.
NOTES (NEW)
1. The voting on adopted motion wpd6041 is amended as follows: Votes in
favor: WP, FC, SP; against: none.
2. I have just noticed that we still have one passage-terminating symbol
that can be used without dot 3 if followed by space, namely the grade 1
passage terminator. Since this symbol does not involve capitalization nor
typeforms, it is not strictly covered by the recently adopted motions. If
it is intended that this symbol should be similarly treated, a motion to
that effect would be in order at any time.
3. I'll try to get something together within the next few days, to see if
we can move the subject of index extents further along. The "bullet
symbol" will follow.
AGENDA (* denotes new item)
"Clean-up" Track with target dates (now likely to be slipped by 3 weeks
from stated date):
-- 2003-6-21 Index extents. With the present definition, a negative
exponent must be put between braille grouping indicators, because otherwise
the effect of the superscript/exponent indicator would apply only to the
minus sign, not the number beyond. Is this something we want to change by
some redefinition of the "items" to which the index indicators apply, or by
some other means? Likewise, an expression in explicit brackets is not
regarded as an "item" for the same purpose, which is not optimal in
classical mathematics.
-- 2003-7-5 Clarification of the way in which the curved line or vertical
bar and horizontal overbar in spatially-arranged common arithmetic division
is to be represented.
-- 2003-7-19 Transcriber-assigned typeforms. Shall we give guidance as to
how and when the transcriber-assigned typeform series is to be used (and
clarify that it IS a series)?
-- 2003-8-2 Typeforms extending over several paragraphs. Presently we open
and close typeforms at every text element boundary, e.g. between
paragraphs. If the same typeform continues over adjoining paragraphs,
should we consider omitting the closing indicator on the first?
-- 2003-8-16 Overlap and nesting of typeforms. At present, we allow
different typeforms to be stopped and started at any point, which permits
them to be overlapped arbitrarily. Should we require that strictly nested,
e.g. should a bold indicator that is started within an italic passage be
closed before the italic passage is closed?
-- 2003-8-30 Line sign (for poetry line breaks). This is presently a
two-cell symbol in UEBC, reassigned from the one-cell symbol used in
English Braille in order to provide for a diagonal line segment in
line-drawing mode. Is this a sufficiently worrisome ambiguity that we
should retain the two-cell assignment, or should we consider allowing them
to be the same symbol?
-- 2003-9-13 Closing and reopening of the non-UEBC passage
indicator. Presently we allow a new passage to be opened without closing
one already in effect, e.g. French following Music. Should we require such
a passage always to be explicitly closed?
-- 2003-9-27 Accents and diacritics. Presently we have symbols for some of
the most common Western European accent marks -- the acute, grave,
circumflex, dieresis/umlaut, tilde, cedilla and circle-above. Some other
such marks include the breve (a small u-shaped mark above), hacek (small
v-shaped mark above), slash overlay, and ogonek (small backwards cedilla
below), among many others (see Unicode symbols U+0300 through
U+036f). Should we identify the more common of these and make some
assignments?
-- 2003-10-11 Revisiting general mathematical signs. Presently mentioned
items are:
-- the "difference between" symbol (like an equal sign, but with a
central bump in the top bar, U+224f), which is apparently sometimes used
for "approximately equal"
-- 2003-10-25 Lines and similar devices for formatting purposes. Presently
mentioned items are:
-- Lines for "boxes," top and bottom (and double and single?), including
colored boxes
-- Lines to divide adjoining boxes
-- 2003-11-8 Should we make it a general rule that dot 4 followed by a
letter signifies a struck-through letter used as a currency symbol?
"Chemistry" Track:
-- Review of chemistry symbols for completeness. A list presented by JS,
and comments thereto by SP and others, may be found in archives C220002 and
C220003.
"Miscellaneous Symbols" Track:
-- Miscellaneous symbols possibly needing assignment or change. This is an
open-ended category. Presently mentioned items are:
-- The bullet symbol to be reassigned to a pattern more easily found when
"scanning" (see message from Darleen Bogart)
-- Hebrew alphabet
-- Cyrillic alphabet
-- "open" (double-struck) letters (chiefly capitals)
MOTIONS AND SYMBOLS ADOPTED SINCE THE POSTED REPORTS
The last report of Committee 2 was the Supplementary Report of October
1999. There was also a report in February 2001 for a Joint Session of
Committees 2 and 4. Both are on the ICEB Web site, on the main "UEBC
Project Information" page. Motions adopted by Committee 2 that are not
reflected in either of those reports are recorded in status messages having
the following dates:
2000-2-16 (assigning symbols for line bonds and equilibrium arrows)
2001-6-18 (rescinding the rule forbidding contractions before numeric
indicator)
2001-8-9 (removing alignment mode from the definition of UEBC)
2001-9-20 (removing asterisk from the "standing alone" definition)
2002-2-17 (defining that apostrophe before final s terminates the effect of
the word-capitals indicator)
2002-5-2 (assigning certain chemistry-related symbols, e.g. for dot bonds)
2002-6-13 (assigning "long dash" and designating dot 3 as a terminator in
line mode)
2002-10-19 (redefining the extent of the word-capitals indicator, so that
apostrophe terminates it, and clarifying that accent modifiers do not
terminate it)
2002-11-15 (assigning symbols for dashed lines, e.g. bonds, and reassigning
and redefining the symbol for "normal")
2002-11-21 (recommending deletion of the "o'clock" contraction if the
letter-sequence [word or double-cap] form of capitalization is used for
words containing apostrophes)
2003-2-19 (by consensus, recommending that balancing quotes
be transcribed as like kinds, e.g. both nonspecific)
2003-3-18 (redefining the context rules whereby the grade 1 meaning of dots
236 is opening nonspecific quote vs. question mark)
2003-4-28 (defining a separated numeric indicator and numeric passage mode
and associated indicators)
2003-5-12 (assigning symbols and one "standard shape" for geometry)
2003-6-2 (assigning miscellaneous symbols; reassigning the "sans-serif"
indicators to "script")
2003-6-16 (deleting dot 6 as capitals passage terminator when followed by
space, i.e. requiring the two-cell form always)
A complete "Committee 2 Current Working Symbols List" is posted at
http://www.iceb.org/symbsc2.html
Symbols added or changed by these adopted motions appear in that list with
the annotation "[new" or "[changed".
Symbols reassigned by these adopted motions are as follows:
$d.4 hollow dot - reassigned to $d"0
Symbols deleted by these adopted motions are as follows:
$d__7 enter alignment mode
$d__' exit alignment mode
$d, (when followed by space) capitals passage terminator
$d@ (when followed by space) script (formerly sans serif) passage terminator
$d@# (when followed by space) 1st transcriber-defined passage terminator
$d^ (when followed by space) boldface passage terminator
$d_ (when followed by space) underlined passage terminator
$d. (when followed by space) italic passage terminator
Standard shapes assigned by these motions are as follows:
$d$@#d white parallelogram (U+25b1)
NOTES (CARRIED FORWARD)
1. Archives of all messages since August 12, 2002 through this and other
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details of our procedural rules (based on Robert's Rules) can also be found
on other areas of the same web site.
2. The floor remains open to messages from observers and consultants as
well as from voting members of the committee. I particularly encourage
observers who have not previously posted to send us a few paragraphs of
self-introduction.
3. The order of the agenda is according to my own rough estimate as to what
needs to be decided most quickly, mostly for the sake of work being done by
other committees. It is not cast in stone. All input on agenda items and
their relative priority is welcome.
4. The date listed with an agenda item is the target date for finish of
work, e.g. an adopted motion. In order to keep to schedule, it will be
necessary to overlap discussion of items.
5. The current roster of voting committee members is:
Bruce Maguire, Australia
Frank Chennells, Canada
Margaret Salt, NZ
Christo de Klerk, South Africa
Stephen Phippen, UK
William Poole, UK
Abraham Nemeth, US
Joe Sullivan, US (Chair)
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