Hi Floyd On Wednesday 24 November 2004 06:39 am, Floyd Resler wrote: > Here you go. Thanks. > Thread 0 Crashed: > 0 SDL 0x30026600 SDL_JoystickUpdate + 0x20 Interesting. I just noticed in the log you posted earlier that the joystick driver is failing to initialize. The driver isn't probably handling that case - I'll fix it. I suspect the reason for the SDL joystick driver failing is this: > 0x30000000 - 0x30030fff SDL 1.2.3 > /Library/Frameworks/SDL.framework/Versions/A/SDL Try installing the latest version of SDL - version 1.2.7. You can get it from http://www.libsdl.org/. Cheers, Rich