[triadtechtalk] Re: Talk about food for thought! (OTF)

  • From: Armando Barreiro <fidelis1sob@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:16:12 -0800 (PST)

I lived in Phila., Pa. from 1963 through 1969, that's where I learned English 
as a second language, and then we moved to Miami, FL in 1970, so yes, I know of 
the bitterly cold temps. that are common in winter in the Northern latitudes, 
but now, being accustomed to the Fl. climate, you're right, it was cold last 
week, but I would qualify it to have been bitterly cold, you know how 
Floridians hate the cold, and starting on Monday "el mono va a estar que 
chifla" - it'll turn cold enough to make a monkey whistle.

The money spent now is owed by the tax payers, present and future, but our 
govt. bonds are still rated as AAA. Less social(ism) programs is the solution. 
Even Clinton instituted, Welfare Reform, much to the chagrin of the extreme 
liberals.(*)

My neighbor's son just finished his U.S.Army tour and returned home yesterday. 
I saw this kid grow up into a young man and when he graduated from H.S. he 
joined the Army. ITMT, we have AH like Kerry putting down our fellow Americans 
who join the service. (**)


Take care,

Armando


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--- On Fri, 12/24/10, ROBERT BURGER <RobertBurger36@xxxxxxx> wrote:

From: ROBERT BURGER <RobertBurger36@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Talk about food for thought! (OTF)
To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Friday, December 24, 2010, 8:37 PM



 

Hi Armando,
 
Thanks for this very uplifting email.  The previous one was very 
pessimistic.  Unfortunately, I tend to take the pessimistic view which 
doesn't help anything.  But our nation really solves problems.
 
The main thing I worry about is the way they are printing money like it is 
going out of style.  It could produce ultra inflation (like Germany after 
WWI) which would wipe out any saving that a person might have.
 
I always enjoy your comments, whether they be technical or otherwise.
 
Thanks again for all you comments.
 
I believe that you live in Florida. I just came back from visiting my 
brother in Zephyrhills.  It was cold but not as cold as PA.
 
Regards
 
Robert

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: armando barreiro 
  To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 1:52 
  PM
  Subject: [triadtechtalk] Re: Talk about 
  food for thought! (OTF)
  

  
    
    
      That's a very pessimistic view of the state of our 
        nation.

It's actually the intention of the Fabian Socialists to 
        implant hopelessness and dissatisfaction in order to achieve their goal 
        of destroying free enterprise in order to create a global socialist 
        government.

Throughout its very short history the U.S.A. has 
        always managed to overcome every challenge it has confronted, and it 
has 
        even gone far beyond has become an undeniable catalyst in bringing an 
        end to wars in Europe, Asia, the Pacific, in the entire world and in 
        reconstruction of the very nations which were adversely destroyed by 
the 
        actions of their very own government, as is evidenced in the Marshall 
        Plan and in the reconstrution of Japan itself.

In the territory 
        just south of Manchurria, we wouldn't now be having the problems that 
        exist if but for Truman, who deliberately stopped McArthur from 
crossing 
        the 38th parallel.
Heck, So. Korea is prosperous, while the North has 
        the largest standing army of the entire world, while its people die of 
        hunger and subsist on what the West sends them in aide.

Even the 
        Stalinist communists abandoned their socialist forms of economic rules 
        due to the fact that their economies were in bankruptcy. The largest 
        number of millionaires now reside in Moscow and in Beijing, yet the US 
        Govt. sent millions to the ex-Soviets after its collapse, they feared 
        the exodus of nuclear arms.

Reagan defeated them without firing a 
        single shot, all he said was "Satr Wars", a fictional world which the 
        mighty bear knew that the US could very probably achieve. They folded, 
        poker!

A new chair-person will soon be taking charge in the House 
        of Representatives' committee on Forign Policy. Change is soon to come, 
        as soon as the new Congress takes oath in 2011.

While Greece, 
        Spain, Ireland, and the rest of the socialist states of the EU become 
        bankrupt and their public debt and bonds are rated as Ab and soon to be 
        junk, the US is still rated as AAA, despite the trillion + spent by the 
        last Congress, so take heart, don't allow the socialist culture of the 
        repoting media drag your spirits down.

Even as bad as it is 
        painted to be by the likes of Cokie et al, the majority of the world's 
        population would still give anything in order to be able to live in the 
        good old USA. The poorest of the destitute living in our nation are 
rich 
        when compared to standard of living enjoyed by the majority of the 
        people in most of the other nations of the world.

"God bless 
        America, Land that I love. Stand beside her and guide her 
        through..."

And those lines, my friends, are not of my 
        design.

As far as I'm concerned, the future is challenging, but 
        not bleak, on the contrary, this is now a technology revolution, and at 
        the forefront of the technological revolution is the good U.S. of 
        A.

The greedy politicians were put there by the ignorant majority 
        who voted them in, and they can vote them out.

How many ot these, 
        retired, were called to serve by O and were found to owe taxes. What 
        about Rangel, for instance? Should he continue to serve? How about the 
        late KKK Wizard fron WV who died recently? Who voted them in?

Now 
        they're going to vote for Rahm Emanuel for mayor in Chicago.

God 
        bless America, my home, sweet home!

Armando
--- On Fri, 
        12/17/10, GASCON, VICTOR <VGASCON@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

        
From: 
          GASCON, VICTOR <VGASCON@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [triadtechtalk] 
          Re: Talk about food for thought! (OTF)
To: 
          "'triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" 
          <triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Friday, December 17, 
          2010, 1:07 PM


          
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          Juanita,
           
          Oh, 
          it is very true. Sadly and depressingly true. The U.S. is heading for 
          crisis (plural) of unimaginable proportions. I blame it all on two 
          groups: Congress (self-serving greedy politicians, in general) and 
the 
          rest of us (for being too busy working as many jobs as needed to 
          maintain a standard of living we cannot afford). At the core of most 
          of our problems are greed and ignorance (much of it voluntary — we 
          rather not know than face reality).
           
          We 
          will wake up and come to terms with all these facts. I just wonder if 
          it will be in time to stop us from becoming the next Roman Empire 
that 
          collapsed out of arrogance (as many other empires have).
           
          Merry 
          Christmas everyone!
           
          
          -= 
          Victor =-
           
          
          
          From: 
          triadtechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
          [mailto:triadtechtalk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
          Juanita Kimble
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 12:25 
          PM
To: triadtechtalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: 
          [triadtechtalk] Talk about food for thought! 
          (OTF)
           
          
           
          
           
          
          I 
          sure hope all this isn't true
          
           
          
          Juanita
          
           
          
           
          
           
           
          Talk about food for 
          thought!
          
            
            
              
                
                  
                  
                    
                      There 
                      is nothing political about this email..It simply points 
                      out very probable changes that are in our 
                      future.
                      CHANGES 
                      ARE COMING ---- Whether these changes are good or bad 
                      depends in part on how we adapt to them. But, ready or 
                      not, here they come! 
                      
                      1. The 
                      Post Office. Get ready to imagine a world without 
                      the post office. They are so deeply in financial trouble 
                      that there is probably no way to sustain it long term. 
                      Email, Fed Ex, and UPS have just about wiped out the 
                      minimum revenue needed to keep the post office alive. 
Most 
                      of your mail every day is junk mail and bills.
                      2. The 
                      Check.  Britain is already laying the groundwork 
                      to do away with checks by 2018. It costs the financial 
                      system billions of dollars a year to process checks. 
                      Plastic cards and online transactions will lead to the 
                      eventual demise of the check. This plays right into the 
                      death of the post office. If you never paid your bills by 
                      mail and never received them by mail, the post office 
                      would absolutely go out of business..
                      3. The 
                      Newspaper. The younger generation simply doesn't 
                      read the newspaper. They certainly don't subscribe to a 
                      daily delivered print edition. That may go the way of the 
                      milkman and the laundry man.. As for reading the paper 
                      online, get ready to pay for it. The rise in mobile 
                      Internet devices and e-readers has caused all the 
                      newspaper and magazine publishers to form an alliance. 
                      They have met with Apple, Amazon, and the major cell 
phone 
                      companies to develop a model for paid subscription 
                      services.
                      4. The 
                      Book. You say you will never give up the physical 
                      book that you hold in your hand and turn the literal 
                      pages. I said the same thing about downloading music 
                      fromiTunes. I wanted my hard copy CD. But I quickly 
                      changed my mind when I discovered that I could get albums 
                      for half the price without ever leaving home to get the 
                      latest music. The same thing will happen with books. You 
                      can browse a bookstore online and even read a preview 
                      chapter before you buy. And the price is less than half 
                      that of a real book. And think of the convenience! Once 
                      you start flicking your fingers on the screen instead of 
                      the book, you find that you are lost in the story, can't 
                      wait to see what happens next, and you forget that you're 
                      holding a gadget instead of a book.
                      5. The 
                      Land Line Telephone. Unless you have a large 
                      family and make a lot of local calls, you don't need it 
                      anymore Most people keep it simply because they've always 
                      had it. But you are paying double charges for that extra 
                      service. All the cell phone companies will let you call 
                      customers using the same cell provider for no charge 
                      against your minutes
                      6. Music. This 
                      is one of the saddest parts of the change story. The 
music 
                      industry is dying a slow death. Not just because of 
                      illegal downloading. It's the lack of innovative new 
music 
                      being given a chance to get to the people who would like 
                      to hear it. Greed and corruption is the problem. The 
                      record labels and the radio conglomerates are simply 
                      self-destructing. Over 40% of the music purchased today 
is 
                      "catalog items," meaning traditional music that the 
public 
                      is familiar with. Older established artists. This is also 
                      true on the live concert circuit. To explore this 
                      fascinating and disturbing topic further, check out the 
                      book, "Appetite for Self-Destruction" by Steve Knopper, 
                      and the video documentary, "Before the Music 
                      Dies."
                      7. Television. Revenues 
                      to the networks are down dramatically. Not just because 
of 
                      the economy. People are watching TV and movies streamed 
                      from their computers. And they're playing games and doing 
                      lots of other things that take up the time that used to 
be 
                      spent watching TV. Prime time shows have degenerated down 
                      to lower than the lowest common denominator. Cable rates 
                      are skyrocketing and commercials run about every 4 
minutes 
                      and 30 seconds. I say good riddance to most of it. It's 
                      time for the cable companies to be put out of our misery. 
                      Let the people choose what they want to watch online and 
                      through Netflix.
                      8. The 
                      "Things" That You Own. Many of the very 
                      possessions that we used to own are still in our lives, 
                      but we may not actually own them in the future. They may 
                      simply reside in "the cloud." Today your computer has a 
                      hard drive and you store your pictures, music, movies, 
and 
                      documents. Your software is on a CD or DVD, and you can 
                      always re-install it if need be. But all of that is 
                      changing. Apple, Microsoft, and Google are all finishing 
                      up their latest "cloud services." That means that when 
you 
                      turn on a computer, the Internet will be built into the 
                      operating system. So, Windows, Google, and the Mac OS 
will 
                      be tied straight into the Internet. If you click an icon, 
                      it will open something in the Internet cloud. If you save 
                      something, it will be saved to the cloud. And you may pay 
                      a monthly subscription fee to the cloud provider.  In 
                      this virtual world, you can access your music or your 
                      books, or your whatever from any laptop or handheld 
                      device. That's the good news. But, will you actually own 
                      any of this "stuff" or will it all be able to disappear 
at 
                      any moment in a big "Poof?" Will most of the things in 
our 
                      lives be disposable and whimsical? It makes you want to 
                      run to the closet and pull out that photo album, grab a 
                      book from the shelf, or open up a CD case and pull out 
the 
                      insert.
                      9. Privacy. If 
                      there ever was a concept that we can look back on 
                      nostalgically, it would be privacy. That's gone. It's 
been 
                      gone for a long time anyway. There are cameras on the 
                      street, in most of the buildings, and even built into 
your 
                      computer and cell phone. But you can be sure that 24/7, 
                      "They" know who you are and where you are, right down to 
                      the GPS coordinates, and the Google Street View. If you 
                      buy something, your habit is put into a zillion profiles, 
                      and your ads will change to reflect those habits. And 
                      "They" will try to get you to buy something else. Again 
                      and again.
                      All we 
                      will have that can't be changed are Memories.
                      Nineteen 
                      Facts About The Deindustrialization Of America That Will 
                      Blow Your Mind

The 
                      United States is rapidly becoming the very first 
                      "post-industrial" nation on the globe. All great economic 
                      empires eventually become fat and lazy and squander the 
                      great wealth that their forefathers have left them, but 
                      the pace at which America is accomplishing this is 
                      absolutely amazing. It was America that was at the 
                      forefront of the industrial revolution. It was America 
                      that showed the world how to mass produce everything from 
                      automobiles to televisions to airplanes. It was the great 
                      American manufacturing base that crushed Germany and 
Japan 
                      in World War II.  

But now we are 
                      witnessing the deindustrialization of America . Tens 
                      of thousands of factories have left the United States in 
                      the past decade alone Millions upon millions of 
                      manufacturing jobs have been lost in the same time 
                      period. The United States has become a nation that 
                      consumes everything in sight and yet produces 
increasingly 
                      little.  Do you know what our biggest export is 
                      today? Waste paper. Yes, trash is the number one 
                      thing that we ship out to the rest of the world as we 
                      voraciously blow our money on whatever the rest of the 
                      world wants to sell to us. The United States has 
                      become bloated and spoiled and our economy is now just a 
                      shadow of what it once was. Once upon a time America 
                      could literally out produce the rest of the world 
                      combined. Today that is no longer true, but Americans 
                      sure do consume more than anyone else in the 
                      world. If the deindustrialization of America 
                      continues at this current pace, what possible kind of a 
                      future are we going to be leaving to our 
                      children?

Any great nation throughout history has 
                      been great at making things. So if the United States 
                      continues to allow its manufacturing base to erode at a 
                      staggering pace how in the world can the U.S. continue to 
                      consider itself to be a great nation? We have created 
                      the biggest debt bubble in the history of the world in an 
                      effort to maintain a very high standard of living, but 
the 
                      current state of affairs is not anywhere close to 
                      sustainable. Every single month America goes into 
                      more debt and every single month America gets 
                      poorer.
                      So what happens when the 
                      debt bubble pops?

The 
                      deindustrialization of the United States should be a top 
                      concern for every man, woman and child in the 
                      country. But sadly, most Americans do not 
                      have any idea what is going on around them.

For 
                      people like that, take this article and print it out and 
                      hand it to them.  Perhaps what they will read below 
                      will shock them badly enough to awaken them from their 
                      slumber.    

The following are 
                      19 facts about the deindustrialization of America that 
                      will blow your mind....

#1 The United States has 
                      lost approximately 42,400 factories since 2001..About 75 
                      percent of those factories employed over 500 people when 
                      they were still in operation.

#2 Dell Inc., one of 
                      America 's largest manufacturers of computers, has 
                      announced plans to dramatically expand its operations in 
                      China with an investment of over $100 billion over the 
                      next decade.

#3 Dell has announced that it will be 
                      closing its last large U.S. manufacturing facility in 
                      Winston-Salem , North Carolina in November.  
                      Approximately 900 jobs will be lost.

#4 In 2008, 
                      1.2 billion cell phones were sold worldwide. So how 
                      many of them were manufactured inside the United States 
                      ?  Zero.

#5 According to a new study conducted 
                      by the Economic Policy Institute, if the U.S. trade 
                      deficit with China continues to increase at its current 
                      rate, the U.S. economy will lose over half a million jobs 
                      this year alone.

#6 As of the end of July, the U.S. 
                      trade deficit with China had risen 18 percent compared to 
                      the same time period a year ago.

#7 The United 
                      States has lost a total of about 5.5 million 
manufacturing 
                      jobs since October 2000.

#8 According to Tax Notes, 
                      between 1999 and 2008 employment at the foreign 
affiliates 
                      of U.S. parent companies increased an astounding 30 
                      percent to 10.1 million. During that exact same time 
                      period, U.S. employment at American multinational 
                      corporations declined 8 percent to 21.1 million.

#9 
                      In 1959, manufacturing represented 28 percent of U.S. 
                      economic output. In 2008, it represented 11.5 
                      percent.

#10 Ford Motor Company recently announced 
                      the closure of a factory that produces the Ford Ranger in 
                      St. Paul , Minnesota . Approximately 750 good paying 
                      middle class jobs are going to be lost because making 
Ford 
                      Rangers in Minnesota does not fit in with Ford's new 
                      "global" manufacturing strategy.

#11 As of the end 
                      of 2009, less than 12 million Americans worked in 
                      manufacturing.  The last time less than 12 million 
                      Americans were employed in manufacturing was in 
                      1941.

#12 In the United States today, consumption 
                      accounts for 70 percent of GDP. Of this 70 percent, over 
                      half is spent on services.

#13 The United States 
                      has lost a whopping 32 percent of its manufacturing jobs 
                      since the year 2000.

#14 In 2001, the United States 
                      ranked fourth in the world in per capita broadband 
                      Internet use. Today it ranks 15th.

#15 
                      Manufacturing employment in the U.S. computer industry is 
                      actually lower in 2010 than it was in 1975.

#16 
                      Printed circuit boards are used in tens of thousands of 
                      different products.  Asia now produces 84 percent of 
                      them worldwide.

#17 The United States spends 
                      approximately $3.90 on Chinese goods for every $1 that 
the 
                      Chinese spend on goods from the United States .

#18 
                      One prominent economist is projecting that the Chinese 
                      economy will be three times larger than the U.S. economy 
                      by the year 2040.

#19 The U.S. Census Bureau says 
                      that 43.6 million Americans are now living in poverty and 
                      according to them that is the highest number of poor 
                      Americans in the 51 years that records have been 
                      kept.

So how many tens of thousands more factories 
                      do we need to lose before we do something about 
                      it?

How many millions more Americans are going to 
                      become unemployed before we all admit that we have a 
very, 
                      very serious problem on our hands?

How many more 
                      trillions of dollars are going to leave the country 
before 
                      we realize that we are losing wealth at a pace that is 
                      killing our economy?

How many once great 
                      manufacturing cities are going to become rotting war 
zones 
                      like Detroit before we understand that we are committing 
                      national economic suicide?
                      The 
                      deindustrialization of America is a national 
                      crisis. It needs to be treated like one.

If 
                      you disagree with this article, I have a direct challenge 
                      for you. If anyone can explain how a deindustrialized 
                      America has any kind of viable economic future, please do 
                      so below in the comments section.

America is in 
                      deep, deep trouble folks.  It is time to WAKE 
                      UP.
           



      

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