[torontocbm] Re: PET 2001-8

  • From: "Mike Stein" <mhs.stein@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2014 11:01:53 -0400

Might just be one; try POKEing 0 and 255 into any location between 6144 and 
7167 and PEEK it back; that should tell you.

The early BASIC restricted where you could PEEK/POKE, but I assume it excluded 
a specific upper area and included at least the lower 8K regardless of how much 
was functional.

If you get it down to one chip I could drop off a replacement; send me your 
phone no. off-list.

m
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: wbochar 
  To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 3:41 PM
  Subject: [torontocbm] Re: PET 2001-8


  After the Active Surplus Dentist kit, I got 6143 J

   

  After a little back and forth between the slots it looks like I have 2 bad 
chips.

   

  I noticed the second last pair had some funky stuff in the socket, with a 
little elbow grease and dentist pick I managed to clean the pin receptacles. 

   


   

  From: torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of wbochar
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 2:55 PM
  To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [torontocbm] Re: PET 2001-8

   

  I did the ram shuffle, 

  5119 is the maximum ram I am getting. Looks like 4 chips are bad or the last 
four ports are funny.

   

  From: wbochar [mailto:admin@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 1:50 PM
  To: 'torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
  Subject: RE: [torontocbm] Re: PET 2001-8

   

  I'm downtown - Dundas and Dovercourt.

   

  I'll give the ram shuffle a try and get back to you. I'll try resocketing 
them, over time they might have moved up or some other material may have messed 
with the pins. If that doesn't help, I start the Ram moving J

   

  This machine is turning into FrankenMonster, I really don't mind looks - more 
into getting him in the best possible shape internally. So if I can get the 
ROMs and RAM up to date, that would be great. I don't mind spending some money 
on him, I've never had a functioning PET before and there are some many 
programs I have sitting around from a long time ago. My grade school had 4 of 
them and a 4040, my dad who was teacher at another school would sneak one home 
for the summer. PET's were my first intro to programming.. there was a miner 
game that I heavily modified and would like to see again J

   

  Thanks for the help J

   

   

  --Wolf

  http://wbochar.com

   

   

   

   

   

   

  From: torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
[mailto:torontocbm-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Stein
  Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 11:56 AM
  To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [torontocbm] Re: PET 2001-8

   

  Hi Wolfgang,

   

  Sounds like you've got at least one bad RAM chip or socket; fortunately the 
320132 board uses 2114s, which are still relatively easy to find.

   

  The lower 2K are working, so try removing the 3rd pair of RAM chips (I6 & J6) 
and replacing it with the last pair (I1 & J1); with luck you'll get it up to 
6143 bytes free or even the full 7167 if it's a poor socket. 

   

  One way of testing RAM chips if the system is working is to leave a good pair 
in I/J7 & I/J8 needed to run, pull one of the video RAM chips (C3 or C4), and 
one by one replace it with the chip you want to test.

   

  And yes, there are several ways of upgrading the ROMs, depending on how much 
you want to spend and whether you care how it looks.

   

  Whereabouts are you BTW?

   

  Good luck!

   

  m

    ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: wbochar 

    To: torontocbm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 

    Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 12:37 AM

    Subject: [torontocbm] PET 2001-8

     

    I've got a PET 2001-8 that recently came back to life. 

     

    I was out drinking with friends (around 2001), I stumbled while walking 
downtown over this PET. I took the PET home (I still live downtown) which was 
really in bad shape. His Exterior was rusted and his chassis was impossible to 
open. Someone had cut off his power cord too.

     

    He got put into storage with Family for a while (I moved around a lot). And 
not so long ago, (well this week) I got him back. I had to cut the screws to 
the lid, popped the top and looked inside. At some point the chassis became the 
home of some creatures, which I cleaned out the remnants of the nest.

     

    The mainboard was in decent shape, and after everything was clean and chips 
pressed into place I powered him up. The screen actually worked and I got some 
random garbage for a second. After a few checks on the MB I soldered a few 
spots and restarted him. He works.

     

    After looking inside it, I noticed the Logic Assembly Part Number is 
320132. The exterior doesn't have the chicklets, or the tape drive, it's a 9" 
monitor with the PET ASCII Keyboard (minus the CAPSLOCK when I found it). He 
also reports:

     

    *** COMMODORE BASIC ***

      1023 BYTES FREE

     

    Which by the *** and model number 2001-8 he's got original ROM's.

     

    But doesn't that also mean 2001-8 should have ~8K free (7167)?

     

    I've posted images of the mainboard, screen and model sticker to my site: 
http://wbochar.com

     

    Any thoughts on the RAM? All of the chips are populated, maybe this was 
scavenged before being discarded.

     

    If I recall, the ROM's in early revision 2001's can't go to Basic 4 but 2/3 
is available correct? Well if I can get ROM's that is.

     

    I do recall at the one or two TPUG meetings that I did attend and the WOC, 
someone mentioned a modern ROM upgrade. Are these still around?

     

    PS: Leif I like the Network stuff you've been working on J 

     

    --Wolfgang Bochar

    admin@xxxxxxxxxxx

     

     

     

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