Jean, your first is Papaipema cerussata, the ironweed borer moth, which is quite common of late here in the mountains. Glad you got the Large Tolype, one of my favorite moths. I'm still seeing them in Watauga County, NC and found one last weekend in eastern NC at 200 ft elevation. Merrill On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 11:10 AM, Jean Obrist <innisfreehorses@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > The Papaipemas are confusing to me. Which one is this? At first I > thought *duovata*, but then found similar ones. It was overall quite > dark, with obvious gray and obvious light area on apex. > It came to black light last night. > > The Tolype is the first one I have ever seen. Beautiful moth! It came to > light Sun night. > Thanks for ID help. > > Jean Obrist > Cocke Co, TN > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet