Could the second one be: Metarranthis amyrisaria Hodges # 6824? Does Metarranthis have to have HW spots? Jean Obrist Cocke Co, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: Carol Wolf To: TN-moths Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: [tn-moths] Need help with an ID please These moths were found in the Cades Cove Campground in the Great Smokie Mountains on 10-09-09. Anyone know what they might be. Not the greatest photos but maybe you can tell what they are. Thanks for your help. Carol Wolf Woodbury, TN Cannon County